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Old 05-12-2010, 08:15 PM   #21
 
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I don't fert in no tanks neither and most def not in my shrimp tanks. What I ...built. But if the main thing is the Java moss pfffftt forget the fert IMO seriously
Well that's definitely good to hear. I'm sure the plants should be happy in the 10 gallon then, with the mulm, the good water quality, and I'll get a new light to ensure that's good.

I'm not sure how well things will go in the 55 gallon though, since it's not established yet, and won't be until after I have the plants and snails.

I would hate to put all my plants in the 10 gallon and have the goldfish chow down on them, but at the same time it seems like the best assurance that the plants would survive as far as conditions.

Any suggestions on how my water should be in the 55 gallon to have good luck with the java moss and java fern without having it cycled or established, or even with fish?


And on the topic of CO2, does it really seem necessary with just the java moss and java fern? I'd really like to be able to avoid having to do it, but if it's really going to make that much of a difference I will. Both tanks have lots of oxygen, the 10g with a large airstone(which may or may not be removed), and the 55g has water breaking and aggitating the surface all day, as well as I might put a large bubble wand in there(since my goldfish seem to love bubbles) so I'm not sure if that's something that will take so much of the CO2 out of the tanks that i really will need to have a co2 setup or something.

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Old 05-13-2010, 04:52 AM   #22
 
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You don't need to worry about adding CO2 with low-light plants like that and regular lighting. CO2 is only really needed when you've got demanding plants and high enough light to make it worthwhile.

Java moss and java fern are ludicrously hard to kill. I have java moss surviving (with no die-off whatsoever) in tanks with totally non-plant-friendly lighting (ridiculously low lumens and color temperatures around 2300K). Granted, it tends to grow like crazy in tanks with better lighting, but unless you poison it or something I can't imagine how you would go about killing the stuff.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:13 PM   #23
 
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Do you know anyone that has a established larger tank around you that's sickness free (NOT the LFS!)? Then you could just ask to borrow a filter pad and seed your 55g for the goldfish and it would be ready to go for the fish in mins.

I'm really not a goldfish expert but I'd wanna doubt it eats the plants, or rather I'd hope so.

The plants will help you cycle & establish the tank so you can add your plants from day one there's absolutely no need to wait for any cycle adding plants, the moment you add gravel, water and your filter you can add plants in there.

I'm sorry I think I written the other post pretty poorly. The main co2 supply in any tank is coming from your fish which is why I never add any co2 to my tanks as they're properly stocked and that's sufficient enough right there for the plants and you seen my tanks with the variety of plants I grow in it without any adding stuff to it.

That said however in ANY tank you plant do NOT add air-stone in them ever unless you need to treat for a certain sickness requiring it. The air-stone will drive out the necessary co2 for the plants so that's totally not helpful at all for thriving plants. The fish will supply your plants with co2 and in return the plants will supply your fish with air, so no need for them things.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:17 PM   #24
 
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Do you know anyone that has a established larger tank around you that's sickness free (NOT the LFS!)? Then you could just ask to borrow a filter pad and seed your 55g for the goldfish and it would be ready to go for the fish in mins.

I'm really not a goldfish expert but I'd wanna doubt it eats the plants, or rather I'd hope so.

The plants will help you cycle & establish the tank so you can add your plants from day one there's absolutely no need to wait for any cycle adding plants, the moment you add gravel, water and your filter you can add plants in there.

I'm sorry I think I written the other post pretty poorly. The main co2 supply in any tank is coming from your fish which is why I never add any co2 to my tanks as they're properly stocked and that's sufficient enough right there for the plants and you seen my tanks with the variety of plants I grow in it without any adding stuff to it.

That said however in ANY tank you plant do NOT add air-stone in them ever unless you need to treat for a certain sickness requiring it. The air-stone will drive out the necessary co2 for the plants so that's totally not helpful at all for thriving plants. The fish will supply your plants with co2 and in return the plants will supply your fish with air, so no need for them things.
Guess I'll be skipping out on the airstone, my fish will be giving me dirty looks for awhile I'm sure lol, but they'll get over it.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:33 PM   #25
 
Got the snails in today, took a picture of them in the 10 gallon, put most of them in there since it's established, and a few in the 55.




Didn't notice any dead ones, if there was one or two in there they're mixed into the tank, but I'm not worried about that being a problem.

They were sent with some duckweed, so I put that in the tanks, I'm not really worried about it being a nuisance taking over the tank, since it seems that goldfish love the stuff. Even if it is a nuisance, I'll just be cutting it back regularly, which doesn't bother me too much.
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Old 05-13-2010, 08:01 PM   #26
 
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Now duckweed I'd take a scoop full each week and add to the goldfish tank, he/she is gonna appreciate the lil snack for sure.
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Old 05-13-2010, 08:46 PM   #27
 
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Now duckweed I'd take a scoop full each week and add to the goldfish tank, he/she is gonna appreciate the lil snack for sure.

I actually just threw some duckweed in the goldfishies tank, and some into the 55 gallon, I figure it'll be a snack source for them, and hopefully it won't kill them by them eating too much of it, but I suppose thats something I should maybe find out about.

I'm amazed at these snails though, there's one great big one, looks like he's about max size at an inch, or maybe a bit bigger, and he's gone to town on a clay pot I had, and cleared just a pathway of algae right off of it, in just an hour he managed that.

I definitely think I'm going to enjoy these little guys when I see them.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:22 AM   #28
 
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Like I said I have never had goldfish but I do supply duckweed to my neighbor who has got several different kinds goldfish and they snack it a lil but not like a whole scoop net full of it in one day and they def don't die from it.

I LOVEEEEE MTS I have some in every tank simply cause the way they can manage to clean your gravel and sand us with our tools would never be able to do that; especially on sand tanks that I don't gravel vac due to shrimp baby's they do a outstanding job!
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