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Old 12-23-2008, 05:47 PM   #61
 
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i have a new elite 10 gal tropical tank and it has been running for 4 days with everything it needs. got a test kit and everythings fine... dont thinks its fully cycled yet. can I add 1 or 2 tiger barbs now?
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Old 12-24-2008, 06:55 AM   #62
 
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No. Tiger barbs are schooling fish. With two tiger barbs the dominant one will probably kill the weaker one. The survivor will be stressed due to his lack of a school and adding any fish in will probably result in aggression from him. Ten gallons is not large enough for tiger barbs at all.
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:03 AM   #63
 
Hi there,
I've had a successful community tank for over 20 years, and the advice that I followed after a breakin destoyed the lot and I had to set up again a while back seemed to work well......
It involved introducing different species of fish gradually a few at a time, depending on what species they were. I put in the cleaners (like Bristlenose Catfish and Clown Loaches) first, and left the fussy ones like Discus' til last. Ask your stockist over the phone for advice about what sort goes in/and in what order.
As for test kits, the most essentiasl one, I think, is an Ammonia kit (to test; as too much NH4 from decayed food etc can kill the touchier fish).... Once again, ask your fish stockist, as It depends on what species you want to put in. You don't have to obsess about it, but it pays to test at least monthly.........
Another consideration is that some fish, noteably Angelfish and other cichlids, can eat smaller fish such as Neon Tetras........
Personally, I don't test Ph unless I have problems........
I am a great believer in regular (I'm talking about weekly/ unless I'm too busy) water changes, however........Just a couple of buckets of fresh water, whcih I use an old 5L cordial bottle to adjust temperature in by adding a little water from the kettle, (and it aids in counting the Litres for the chlorine neurtaliser).......and everything seems to run smoothly..............
GOOD LUCK!...and ENJOY!
Sounds like you're going the right way about things.........
Cheers Jewels
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Old 01-07-2009, 04:33 AM   #64
 
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clown loaches require a school or "shoal" and grow HUGE. for sure out of the question for a 10 gallon tank. Discus, out of the question in a 10 gallon tank. Angelfish out of the question for a 10 gallon tank. Most cichlids are out too.

I recommend picking up an API master test kit if you dont already have one or something similiar. it comes with ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH. fish stores sell them for $25+ but you can find them online for $15-20

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Old 01-07-2009, 10:37 AM   #65
 
ok, well i have to give credit where credit is due. Thank you guys for all the help and advice thus far!

Well, the tank cycled, and i got fish added.
1 trinidad plec
1 rainbow shark
6 tiger barbs
6 cherry barbs

Ok, so the cherry barb thing turned out to be a bad idea. The shark HATES them. He killed 3 of them so far. As soon as he see's them, he chases them down. However, he doesnt seem to give a second thought to the tiger barbs. Is this because of what kind of barbs they are, or does this have to do with other things? Im thinking of adding 6 green barbs, but i dont want to add them if the shark will just kill them.

Any ideas?
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:23 AM   #66
 
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clown loaches require a school or "shoal" and grow HUGE. for sure out of the question for a 10 gallon tank. Discus, out of the question in a 10 gallon tank. Angelfish out of the question for a 10 gallon tank. Most cichlids are out too.

I recommend picking up an API master test kit if you dont already have one or something similiar. it comes with ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH. fish stores sell them for $25+ but you can find them online for $15-20

Hi there onefish2fish,
I wasn't specifically recommending any particular species for the tank in question, but more the concept of gradual introduction of different fish ........OK?
As for your comments, I totally agree, except that my lone/ large Clown Loach 'Hobo' (What a clown!)/ Basically seems happy and healthy on my small number of little brown snails....Don't forget that is their diet......
.........As well as fish food (I feed flakes in the morning and frozen Discus food in the afternoon).....and an occassional serve of beef heart/ brine shrimp to keep things varied.........
Cheers Jewels
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Old 01-08-2009, 04:14 AM   #67
 
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well hi there jewels
i wasnt directing my comment as a personal attack, i just want the original poster to be informed on stocking limitations as well as anyone else reading this thread. honestly i dont believe your clown loach is "happy" not to sound like a smarty pants but your cant ask your fish or see a smile on their face. yes, single loaches will "live" but will be more skiddish, paranoid and hide more. yes you are correct about feeding snails but they also will eat blanched veggies as well. its also good that your keeping the diet of the other tank mates "varied"
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:12 PM   #68
 
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well hi there jewels
i wasnt directing my comment as a personal attack, i just want the original poster to be informed on stocking limitations as well as anyone else reading this thread. honestly i dont believe your clown loach is "happy" not to sound like a smarty pants but your cant ask your fish or see a smile on their face. yes, single loaches will "live" but will be more skiddish, paranoid and hide more. yes you are correct about feeding snails but they also will eat blanched veggies as well. its also good that your keeping the diet of the other tank mates "varied"
-OF2F
Hi there,
OK - point taken, my Clown Loach does do a lot of hiding, so maybe I should take your advice and get him/her a buddy, thanx for the feedback (and don't worry/ no offence taken - OK?).
I forgot to mention that I also feed blanched baby spinach leaves, which my local supermarket doesn't mind (however - I asked !) me taking slightly mangled and unsellable baby leaves out of the veggie container....I also take the ones that have fallen out of the container for free.....just a few....
But that's not generic advice/ for every supermarket/ without asking/ OK?

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Old 01-12-2009, 10:41 PM   #69
 
I wanted to get a clown loach but if you read back through this thread everyone is against them because they can grow to an enormous size.

Good luck
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:11 AM   #70
 
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you really dont need the carbon unless you are removing meds........
Really? My filter uses all three filter media, mechanical, biological and chemical filtration and i replace the carbon inserts about every 5 weeks.
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