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Old 12-13-2013, 12:36 PM   #41
 
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:23 PM   #42
 
A little bit of help guys. So today my ph stayed the same at 7.8, ammonia was .25 , but my nitrite and nitrate were 0. Is this good or bad. How much of a water change should I do now??
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Old 12-14-2013, 12:37 AM   #43
 
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Its good that your nitrites are 0, but 0 nitrate means that's only because of water change, not biofiltration. Also ammonia reading means that your ammonia source (bioload) is greater than your bacteria colony's ability to process it into nitrite.

So its good for your fish that your readings are low, but water test profile indicates that your cycle is unstable/early stages. To me , this means that waterchanges are the only way to protect your fish from harmful conditions. As to amount, opinions vary- I would say 25-40%, but others who know what they're talking about might say more.
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Old 12-14-2013, 11:36 AM   #44
 
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I would still say to do a 25% change once in the morning, and then another in the evening.

I also suggest, again, that you find new homes for all of your fish today if at all possible. A pet shop may take them for you. You may even be able to sell them to a tropical fish store. If you give away or sell your fish, you could do less changes per day and let the tank cycle at a more stable rate, and not kill your fish.
If you keep your fish, I suggest you get some stuff to protect them during a fish in cycle. They're not perfect, no, but they should block the worst of it. I'm not sure what they're called since I never recommend them, I usually tell people to just get rid of the fish or don't get any until a cycle is complete as it's cruel to do otherwise, but YOU got stuck between a rock and a hard place. Go to your local LFS or a Pestmart/Petco and look in the fish water care section, they have a lot of stuff that helps block the toxins.


I also suggest you use Seachem Prime, if you aren't already. It neutralizes the toxins that can hurt your fish and removes ammonia. Use it for each water change. It's what I use for mine.

Can you test your tap water and put up the numbers for us? A lot of this may actually depend on your tap water, and it'll help to know. If you have ammonia in your tap, as most places do, Prime is the absolute best water treatment you can use for the tank. Otherwise you're just dumping more ammonia into the tank. Some also have nitrates or nitrites. Depends where you live.
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #45
 
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Ah, I forgot, one of the stress zyme products, may be Stress Coat+ has live beneficial bacteria in it. That can also help keep your fish safe and help with the cycle.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:31 PM   #46
 
Hello everyone. Thanks for the comments. Good news. Got rid of the silver dollars to a local oet store that said they would do their best to help them although they said they couldn't promise they would make it considering they were already in really bad condition. :( but figured they can have a fighti g chance with them. And as for the snails and algae eaters I found someone on craigslist that wants them so hope to have them gone tomorrow. Leaving only the danio and tetra which I have really grown attached too great looking fish are no longer scared of me. When they see me coming they immediately start swimming back and forth and come to the front of the tank where before the would hide in the back. Decided its in their best interest to let them go too tho. Have a friend I work with that has an established tank. Will be passing them to him so I can know how they r doin.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:34 PM   #47
 
Did a test on my water at home. The ph was somewhere between 7.8 and 8.0. Looked like a color mixed between the two. 0 for everything else surprisingly. Ammonia had an ever so slight tint of some green in it. But not enough to match the .25 on the chart.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:37 PM   #48
 
Did you let the water sit for 24 hours before testing it? I'm glad you found homes for the fish.
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:39 PM   #49
 
I actually already have the api stress coat +. Its what I use to since it says it removes chlorine and chloramines and detoxifies heavy metals, reduces stress and replaces slime coat. I have heard alot of good things about seachem prime tho. Will be picking up a bottle tomorrow. Anything else while I'm there??
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Old 12-14-2013, 07:41 PM   #50
 
I'm having a successful go with Tetra SafeStart at the moment if you're interested in trying that method (dosing pure ammonia) to cycle your tank. It's not fool-proof but it could help.
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