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post #31 of 65 Old 12-12-2013, 04:38 PM
That's what I was getting at, I apologize for being unclear.
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post #32 of 65 Old 12-12-2013, 07:02 PM
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The smaller danio glofish? The danio glofish are just modified zebra danios, the others that are larger framed are actual tetras. There's no size difference within the species really(meanign the danios will be the size of zebra danios, and the tetras will be the size of tetras lol), no more than any other abnormalities that may happen, like stunting or curved spines. Youngsters will grow.

I agree, you should probably trade it for a long tank if you're really set on glowlight tetras or danios. It IS a lovely tank, but it's just not suited for those kinds of fish. The amount of water it can hold is right, the shape would make them very unhappy though.

Well, unfortunately cycling the tank will take a while when you get the new one, and since this one isn't cycled anyways, it probably wouldn't have been ready for glowfish at Christmas anyways. Explain that to your girls, and tell them good things often take a lot of time. =)

Good luck to you though, I hope you can get a nice set up that you're all happy with. Just don't rush it or you'll have dead fish and unhappy kids. ^^;
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post #33 of 65 Old 12-12-2013, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
Hello everyone, here are today's numbers. Ph dropped to 7.8, ammonia dropped to .25, nitritr dropped to .25 and nitrate stayed at 5.0 since I just did water change yesterday and there were still traces of ammonia and nitrite I did a 50% water change today. My water ph before goin into the tank was 7.8
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post #34 of 65 Old 12-12-2013, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
And when I said small glofish I just meant they separate the full grown danios from the younger ones. I was thinking of buy the younger smaller ones until I get a different tank.
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post #35 of 65 Old 12-12-2013, 11:57 PM
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That's good that your ammonia and nitrite went down and nitrate stayed even after water change. I think that means that your tank is cycling fully (producing nitrate) but not fast enough to keep up with bioload. Backlog of ammonia and nitrite can kill your fish so you must continue water changes till your tank/filter catches up to your bioload. Thanks for posting your test results.

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post #36 of 65 Old 12-13-2013, 12:47 AM Thread Starter
Okay. So found out today my algae eater are golden algae eaters which is just a fancy name for Chinese algae eater. Not good considering what I have heard and posts I have seen on this fish. Alot of ppl say they are bad news. Looks like 2 more fish I will need to rehome. Problem is I woke up today to find them developing these brown spots on them. Anybody have an idea of what it could be?? I looked it up online and saw some ppl had same problem and brushed it off as common. But they practically developed them overnight after the water change. But my numbers got better after water change so I dont know whats going on.
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post #37 of 65 Old 12-13-2013, 06:43 AM
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Angels can't be kept in a hex. They would be MISERABLE.
Angels are one of the few fish that would be totally suitable for a tall hex tank. A 35 hex would be ideal for a breeding pair, you won't see many breeders using them though due to the tank shape. It's a space waster in a fishroom, but a nice show tank for outside the fishroom. You just have to be careful of species choices, stock it more by the footprint than total gallons.

A pic of the CAE's would help, fresh clean water can cause fish to color up. It may be something else though, been a long time since I've had a CAE. After a quick chat last night with Jay he's picking up a cycled sponge filter from someone a bit more local, he's about a half hour out from my place. Can't blame him cost of gas being what it is (says the guy with the '84 F-150 that gets an amazing 8mpg). No biggie, that will work, I've always got bio media on hand, toss it in the garbage, toss it in a fish bag, as long as the tank gets squared away we're getting somewhere!
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post #38 of 65 Old 12-13-2013, 08:02 AM
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Ahh, the golden algae eaters. Yup. In your photo they looked like chubby gold ottos, but ottos actually come in that color only very rarely. If you can, get rid of them immediately. ^^; Likely they're the culprit of fin damage and poor health, aside from the fact those fish are in a tank too small and weren't cared for. You could probably sell them for a pretty good price on craigslist or something. They will likely feed on your fishes slime coats, which destroys their ability to fight off parasites and other nasties that can attach to the skin, also hurts their health all around. They're neat fish indeed, but unless raised and kept properly, and even then, they can be nasty to have with fish because of their ability to get addicted to fish slime.

Also, I suggest, if you can, that you continue to cycle this tank and the filter, which you are doing well(though I gotta say, that PH swinging you're getting, OUCH! That will make your fish very itchy, don't be surprised if they start flashing...slamming their sides into things). Find new homes for the fish, put up photos of the tank holding water, and sell it or trade it. Then move all the water to another large, clean container with the filter and heater, keep it cycled and clean like you would the fish tank, this way you wont have to cycle your tank all over again. Just don't let that filter hit the air too long or be off for more than a few minutes or you'll just kill the beneficial bacteria and have to start over anyways.

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