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Live Food, what have or do you use?
Old 11-19-2006, 11:45 PM   #11
 
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... The mealworms were one of the easiest as you just let them do their thing and you will have thousands in about a month or so. Vinegar eels are even easier because you just ignore them and take out some once in a while so they don't become overcrowded.
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I have googled for both and it appears that the mealworms are too large for what I need (ie. the small red wigglers are smaller than the mealworms) and the vinegar eels are much to small for my community aquarium.

Is my interpretation of the Internet information correct and if so which would be better, easier and least odiferous of grindal worms or micro worms?

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Old 11-20-2006, 12:14 AM   #12
 
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The meaelworms were harvested as very small larva, less than 1/2 inch long. Very readily accepted and eaten by even 3 week old swords. It is really easy to do if you want to try it. There is also a confused flour bettle and red flour beetle larva that is very small but I have not personally used them. Just watch out that they don't escape because they wil eat your grains and flour goods.

As far as microworms and grindal womrs, the grindals are easier to raise and I have never had an odor from the cultures. There is a trick to harvesting them but it isn't very hard. The microworms produce massive numbers and if kept properly they do not smell at all. I used Gerberr baby cereal to raise mine. They do however require you to maintain new cultures every 3 weeks or so as the old one will go bad over time. Grindal worms do need to be started again over time but we are talking about 6 months to a year instead of every 3 weeks.

I would suggest both of them especially if you want to feed fry as the microworms are much smaller and easier to have large amounts for medium or larger sized broods. Vinegar eels are even easier and very easy to harvest and feed a lot of fry if you have 3-5 cultures going. If someone wants the information I will be glad to post it on rearing all of them I have dealt with. It will take me a little time to compile the information but I would be glad to do so. I would also like to hear about the culturing of redworms as I have found some stuff but first hand experience from here would be very nice. I don't have room for a very large culture either.

Just a word of warning, when microworm cultures go bad, they go very bad and stink like rotten cabbage. Not a good ides to let them to sit around too long. I do think they are very good food and very easy to culture dispite of this.
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:00 AM   #13
 
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The meaelworms were harvested as very small larva, less than 1/2 inch long. Very readily accepted and eaten by even 3 week old swords. It is really easy to do if you want to try it.

There is also a confused flour bettle and red flour beetle larva that is very small but I have not personally used them.
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I very much appreciate the time you spent in preparing your post and I am obviously saving this thread.

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These are the "mealworms" which I reviewed on the Internet.


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Do you have a link to a site where I can purchase and learn about culturing the mealworms which you are referring to.

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Old 11-20-2006, 01:51 AM   #14
 
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i recently have tried frozen brine shrimp...but has anyone else had a problem gettting their fish to eat these? i have 4 angels in one tank, and they dont care for them, and a gourami, platy and guppy in another and neither do they care for them....oh well...

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Old 11-20-2006, 02:45 AM   #15
 
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I coudn't see the link or maybe I didn't find it but here are some of my sources. I don't remeber how to order from live food cultures but I will try to find it again.

Mealworms
Worm man
Minimealworms
Live food cultures


I have ordered from both the Worm man and live food cultures with pretty good results.

The mealworms are called Tenebrio molitor or darkling beetle larva.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:43 AM   #16
 
Folks:

I am resurrecting this thread because I am looking for more variety in live fish food.

F4A has a ton of experience.

My red wigglers are still being consumed by my "fishies" but even when "overcrowded" in the worm bin they are "still really too large" for most of my fish.

Does anyone have any suggestions on live food for a community aquarium?

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Old 12-24-2006, 03:08 PM   #17
 
Brine shrimp or BBS (baby brine shrimp)
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:20 PM   #18
 
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brine shrimp
red wigglers (trout worms)
night crawlers (the biggest I can buy)
guppies
ghost shrimp (gut load before feeding to fish)
black worms
snails (both freshwater and salt) I grow my own ramshorns in a seperate tank and buy nassarius sanils online by the thousands.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:28 PM   #19
 
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Jones after clicking on your link I almost fell over. My grandfather had grown up through the depression. Let's say he was frugal. He never owned a trashcan as long as I knew him. Everything was taken to the recyclers for money or kept in the garage. All organic wastes were put into his pear tree set up. This was a 3 foot deep 10'x10' wood structure surrounding his pear tree. Every day any and all organics was put into this box. You could look down and see millions of redworms crawling around. The box must have had at least 2' thick worth of redwroms in it........

Not to hijack, sorry.
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Old 12-24-2006, 03:38 PM   #20
 
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White worms, grindal worms, confused flour beetle larva, flightless fruit flies, there is a worm the size of grindal worms but I forget the name, mosquito larva, Microworms (they may seem small but all of swords love to chase them and eat their fill. There are also many species of aquatic earthworms which can also be raised.

There is a species of redworms that stays smaller, will see if I can find them again.

Just to update also, Livefoodcultures no longer sells from their site, anything they have is available on aquabid.

Hey mike, where are the links to your supplers? I have looked and looked and con't find snails in bulk. I can eve use them for fishing but at $4 for 12 it isn't price effective.

Great redworm story BTW,
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