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Old 10-15-2010, 09:14 AM   #11
 
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The guy is not looking for help or ideas, he simply wanted to share his great live feeding xp.
He has been told that what he is doing might hurt his fish, he has been told that his fish are to big for his tank and he got nuff advice to be able to do something about it.
As a thank you he replied that he has a ballanced tank and he will change nothing because petsmart and another dumb lfs said so.
Now if from the way he replied you still understand that he actually cares for advice and wants help then please shoot me causse my mind is going away.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:35 AM   #12
 
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Ok red I went back and read the reply again and it does kind of come off that way but I like to hope he/she did not mean it that way and will listen and rehome the fish instead of makeing them suffer at his hand in a tank thats to small.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:03 AM   #13
 
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Redknee is right that the last reply came off very snippy. I just don't think that virtually yelling at someone is going to get them to take your advice. In my case it's not about retaliation or being right. It's about making sure the fish get what's best for them.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:15 AM   #14
 
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That was not yelling, that was me being myself, direct and to the point as i usually am. Just because when i post here my tone is a bit more ... down or soft is because i managed to teach myself to be more soft and less frank to avoid virtual "fights" as people tend to think i'm yelling instead of understanding that i am just.. direct and decided(if i can use that word).
If i was actually "yelling" you would notice it even if you had no understanding of human emotions what so ever :).
I have seen many cases like this where the guy/girl refused to understand that what he/she was doing was wrong and refused to do something till it was to late. With this kind of people there is no point in reasoning, it is best to ignore them.
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Old 10-15-2010, 10:32 AM   #15
 
There might be 1 knowledgeable employee at a fish store out of 50 employees. Even at good LFSs the percentage of employees that i meet that know what they are talking about are low. The difference is that the Petsmart, petco, and non-fish specialized stores "train" their employees a couple of basics about fish, and those employees in turn apply those concepts to ALL fish, which is untrue. Moreover, they can only work off the facts sheet provided to them, ie. ive seen petstores with Bala Shark labeled at 4 inch max size so its only antural for the employee to think, well its only 4 inches and at 1inch per gallon u can fit 5 into a 20 gallon tank (20 gallons will house 0 adult bala sharks). Why does this happen? Because most bala sharks sold will die at 4 inches, not naturally, but from living in an unfit environment, ie. tank too small. However, most people will go on thinking it was natural cuz the store said 4 inches and it died at 4 inches so it must have been full-grown.

Also, its not really a "bad" lfs, even if they are specialized in fish-care, to give you bad information. Its hard to find employees who know a lot about fish care, however the same couple of people cant work everyday for all 10 hrs the store is opened so its always good to take a LFS's advice but remember to do your own research.

I think StampedFish is already a couple of steps up from many fish-keepers from having, at the very least, asked about the conditions of his tank, and willing to rescue unwanted fish. He/She just needs to be less stubborn and realize that the optimal conditions for his fish are not met in his tank. Attacking him/her wont change his/her mind.


As for this topic, I see you have a community tank stampedfish, you could easily risk slight overstocking and add a few more guppies. They will breed and you can take the extras to feed your other tank. Other options would be frozen foods, personally, i dont enjoy the sigh of living animals getting torn apart so i stick to my frozen foods :-/.

Brine shrimp require their own hatchery to keep up production. However, they are low in nutritional content so they should only be fed as treats.
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Old 10-15-2010, 11:22 AM   #16
 
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Thanks Sin. You said things better than I ever could.

I wasn't suggesting that you personally were yelling, Redknee. Just that the tone of the last few posts had been a bit...loud and that I didn't think it was going to be persuasive.
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:00 PM   #17
 
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Why do you guys and girls even bother? The guy sais that petsmart sais that all is ok, tank is big enough, feeder fish are good, and he is one smart and all knowing fish keeper.
Buddy you are not trying to do your best, you are just another spoiled kid with no respect for living things.
That said i pity any living thing that depends on your care.
I feel really bad that you need to attack people instead of being intelligent and explaining yourself with knowledge. If you are so incredibly smart, try using grammar and actual sentences. I cannot even comprehend what you wrote through your spelling errors. I have been working and on my own since I was 16 years old. I am now married with a wife and my own home. You do not know me or my lifestyle. This is why I do not go into these forums; this is also why other people do not come here to ask questions. If you think foolish criticism is going to help someone better themselves, you are wrong. I love how people can be so anonymous online because you would never say that to someone’s face, because they would most likely physically harm you. People kill themselves over pathetic comments people like you make. Think about what you say before you ramble off from your small mind. I said that not only was Petsmart helping me but ALSO a tropical fish specialty store. They know what they are talking about as this specialty store has been in business over thirty years. If my fish get too big for their tank, we will move them. People continue to amaze me every day, thank you for reminding me why I went to college.
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:09 PM   #18
 
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There might be 1 knowledgeable employee at a fish store out of 50 employees. Even at good LFSs the percentage of employees that i meet that know what they are talking about are low. The difference is that the Petsmart, petco, and non-fish specialized stores "train" their employees a couple of basics about fish, and those employees in turn apply those concepts to ALL fish, which is untrue. Moreover, they can only work off the facts sheet provided to them, ie. ive seen petstores with Bala Shark labeled at 4 inch max size so its only antural for the employee to think, well its only 4 inches and at 1inch per gallon u can fit 5 into a 20 gallon tank (20 gallons will house 0 adult bala sharks). Why does this happen? Because most bala sharks sold will die at 4 inches, not naturally, but from living in an unfit environment, ie. tank too small. However, most people will go on thinking it was natural cuz the store said 4 inches and it died at 4 inches so it must have been full-grown.

Also, its not really a "bad" lfs, even if they are specialized in fish-care, to give you bad information. Its hard to find employees who know a lot about fish care, however the same couple of people cant work everyday for all 10 hrs the store is opened so its always good to take a LFS's advice but remember to do your own research.

I think StampedFish is already a couple of steps up from many fish-keepers from having, at the very least, asked about the conditions of his tank, and willing to rescue unwanted fish. He/She just needs to be less stubborn and realize that the optimal conditions for his fish are not met in his tank. Attacking him/her wont change his/her mind.


As for this topic, I see you have a community tank stampedfish, you could easily risk slight overstocking and add a few more guppies. They will breed and you can take the extras to feed your other tank. Other options would be frozen foods, personally, i dont enjoy the sigh of living animals getting torn apart so i stick to my frozen foods :-/.

Brine shrimp require their own hatchery to keep up production. However, they are low in nutritional content so they should only be fed as treats.
Thank you for your advice and explaining it so I could understand. I am going to implement some changes per your advice! I feel that, as long as our fish are safe and healthy, we have the opportunity to learn, grow, and adjust our situation as necessary. We are going to look into getting a bigger tank and hopefully figuring out an alternative to our water situation. Again, thank you for your sound advice.
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:17 PM   #19
 
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I agree with burnsbabe the guy/gal is looking for help/ideas. Could you maybe talk to the local fish store not pet smart as like was pointed out above they most of the time they give wrong info and see if they will trade you the Balas for something else you like? I actually have heard the employees tell people you can keep a male and female betta together all the time which is totally not true.
Another thing I was wondering is why do you use bottled water? I have almost always (15+years) had well water and my fish and plants have done very well in it. Most the time if its safe for you to drink its safe for the fish as well. Plus well water will not have the chlorine and stuff that city water will makeing it actually safer for the fish.
We have to use bottled water because our water is extremely bad. We have a softener and an extensive filtration system but our water is just horrible. We used the well water before in one of our tanks, made sure to treat it, and it was still yellow. We cannot even drink our water at home, it is that bad. We've also tried Brita and all the other extra tap filtration systems and the water remains a horrible yellow color. Oddly enough, there is city water right across the street from our house but due to county restrictions we cannot tap into it.

I also agree that sometimes the people at Petsmart are not the brightest. We have one guy that we talk to there that actually knows what he's talking about. I once had an associate tell me that two fish (one tropical community and one semi-aggressive) did not go well together-yet they were in the same tank at Petsmart...
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Old 10-15-2010, 01:22 PM   #20
 
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I feel really bad that you need to attack people instead of being intelligent and explaining yourself with knowledge. If you are so incredibly smart, try using grammar and actual sentences. I cannot even comprehend what you wrote through your spelling errors. I have been working and on my own since I was 16 years old. I am now married with a wife and my own home. You do not know me or my lifestyle. This is why I do not go into these forums; this is also why other people do not come here to ask questions. If you think foolish criticism is going to help someone better themselves, you are wrong. I love how people can be so anonymous online because you would never say that to someone’s face, because they would most likely physically harm you. People kill themselves over pathetic comments people like you make. Think about what you say before you ramble off from your small mind. I said that not only was Petsmart helping me but ALSO a tropical fish specialty store. They know what they are talking about as this specialty store has been in business over thirty years. If my fish get too big for their tank, we will move them. People continue to amaze me every day, thank you for reminding me why I went to college.
Dear boy, my grammar is bad because english is not my main language, not even my second and it was mostly self taught.
Furthermore my grammar should not be your problem as long as you seem to have problems understanding basic english. Like: fish to big, tank to small, fish live bad, fish die! Maybe that is more to your college understanding.
Also i see you brag about going to college yet you make threats just like a 12 years old would and yet you dare talk about me having a small mind?
And what the heck does your wife and home have to do with you keeping those fish in a tank that's 10 times to small for them?
I'd say this to your face anytime but the distance from me to you is to big to be worth the trip.
Do not make threats unless you are ready to do something about it, otherwise you just look like a dumb kid.
Man was i wrong when i thought that higher learning can actually also help develop the brain...
Anyway, i'm not going to bother with your childish comments, it is clear to me that you are exactly the kind of person that has a small brain, next to nothing physical strenght and a huge HUGE desire to make yourself way more important/imposing that you really are.
Don't bother to reply, my time is to important to spend more of it on your insignificant life.
As for the rest of the people who posted in this topic... you can see all it took was a small push to show you what kind of ignorant person you are bothering to help.
The fact that this thread exists means that the universe failed somehow.


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