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post #1 of 25 Old 10-14-2010, 12:26 AM Thread Starter
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I recently bought a dozen feeder guppys for my semi aggressive tank, the 3 angels I own were the first to attack the guppys then the irredscent sharks and then my dianos. My large silver skirted tetras joined in also. what I am getting at is that, is this a good way of feeding them (besides flakes,bloodwors,shrimp) One angel ate a guppy that seemed very diffcult for him. Is that normal, sorry for the noob questoin I am new to live feeding.

46 Gallon BOW front (Semi Aggressive)
2 dianos
3 Angel fish
2 Bala Sharks
2 Irredescent Sharks
2 Silver skirted tetra
2 red rose barbs
1 pleco

29 Gallon BOW front (tropical community)
12 Neon Tetras
3 Black Tetras
2 Red wag
2 Sunbursts
1 Black mollie
2 Guppys
1 Pleco
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post #2 of 25 Old 10-14-2010, 05:12 AM
Be careful with feeder fish, as they can carry lots of diseases. Also, your pleco, balas and irredscent sharks will quickly outgrow your current setup.
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post #3 of 25 Old 10-14-2010, 11:10 AM Thread Starter
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Be careful with feeder fish, as they can carry lots of diseases. Also, your pleco, balas and irredscent sharks will quickly outgrow your current setup.

I have had them for about 2 years now and they all seem to be staying at about the same size. I believe it is a very well balanced tank. What do you guys think about brine shrimp then?

46 Gallon BOW front (Semi Aggressive)
2 dianos
3 Angel fish
2 Bala Sharks
2 Irredescent Sharks
2 Silver skirted tetra
2 red rose barbs
1 pleco

29 Gallon BOW front (tropical community)
12 Neon Tetras
3 Black Tetras
2 Red wag
2 Sunbursts
1 Black mollie
2 Guppys
1 Pleco
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post #4 of 25 Old 10-14-2010, 11:56 AM
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If they are in a tank that is to small for them there bodys will not grow but there insides will keep growing which leads to a short life and what I would think would be a painful death. As for the live feeding if you are going to keep doing it its recommended that you set up a tank and breed them yourself to insure they are healthy feeders.

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55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

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post #5 of 25 Old 10-14-2010, 02:28 PM
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Amanda is quite correct on both counts. With respect to the fish/tank issue, you should check the species profiles of these fish; second tab from the left in the blue bar at the top takes you to the profiles. As one example, Bala sharks need a group and preferably an 8-foot tank to be healthy long-term. The other fish have similar issues as will be3 explained in the profiles information.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #6 of 25 Old 10-15-2010, 01:17 AM Thread Starter
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When I purchased the tank used I had the option of the owner flushing the bala sharks or taking them. I chose to take them so they could live. I live close to a Petsmart and they have been helping me along with way, as well as a local tropical fish specialty store. They all agree that my current set up is ok, maybe not ideal, but it works and my fish are healthy. I moved into a small town and we only have well water. My water is bottled and placed into the tanks from the grocery store. Therefore, managing or upgrading my fish tank would be detrimental to the fish I already own. Just trying my best here, let's focus on the live feed opinions please! =)

46 Gallon BOW front (Semi Aggressive)
2 dianos
3 Angel fish
2 Bala Sharks
2 Irredescent Sharks
2 Silver skirted tetra
2 red rose barbs
1 pleco

29 Gallon BOW front (tropical community)
12 Neon Tetras
3 Black Tetras
2 Red wag
2 Sunbursts
1 Black mollie
2 Guppys
1 Pleco
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post #7 of 25 Old 10-15-2010, 05:31 AM
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Tell you what, Just keep buying the feeder fish and it won't be long before you introduce parasite and or bacterial pathogens unknown to your tank. Fish will die from introduced disease (your fault), and then you will be able to start over with new fish to infect.
As already mentioned,, store bought feeders are often sick, diseased ,due to crowded tanks , poor care, poor diets,toxic water parameter's due to waste from crowded tanks, etc.
Takes but one sick feeder in a tank full of feeder's ,and then the whole tank of fish can be affected. (ever seen feeder tanks with dead fish ?)
You then buy the sick feeder's and feed them to your fish and in turn your fish become sick as well.
Plenty of prepared foods offered today from frozen, to pellets ,to flake that are much more nutritional and safer than feeder's which are poor from nutritional standpoint unless you are raising them yourself and feeding them with highest quality foods.
Run your question by member's on nearly any other forum and gauge the response you receive.
Any truly knowledegeable hobbyist, fish store,breeder,etc will offer similar advice.

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.

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post #8 of 25 Old 10-15-2010, 05:37 AM
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Why do you guys and girls even bother? The guy sais that petsmart sais that all is ok, tank is big enough, feeder fish are good, and he is one smart and all knowing fish keeper.
Buddy you are not trying to do your best, you are just another spoiled kid with no respect for living things.
That said i pity any living thing that depends on your care.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.
Excuse my bad and rusty english but i did not have your luck to be born or to live in a country where the main language is english.
P.S I am not rude, i just hate stupidity and act accordingly.
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post #9 of 25 Old 10-15-2010, 06:43 AM
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I think we all need to back off here. Clearly, the set up as well as the feeders are less than ideal. But hounding anyone isn't going to make them think well of your advice.

If you enjoy live feeding I can see why, but I'd agree that grabbing a 10g tank for cheap on craigslist and letting the guppies do what they do under your care would be a better bet. Petsmart and the like usually don't know a lot about what they're selling and are only out to make a buck.

As for the tank size in relation to the balas etc. if you can't upgrade (which is something I understand and sympathize with) then I'd try and find a home for the fish that will allow them to live out their lives happily. See if you can work out a trade with someone who has a large tank for other fish you're interested in that would be more at home in a 46g.

That's my two cents.

30g SE Asian Tank
15 Lambchop Rasbora
2 Gold White Cloud Minnows
3 Dwarf Chain Loaches
2 Powder Blue Dwarf Gourami

55g Amazon Tank
2 Wild Type Angels
1 Marble Angel
1 Black Angel
1 Koi Angel
2 Bolivian Rams
14 Pristella Tetra
10 Dwarf Pencilfish
2-3 Twig Catfish (to come)
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post #10 of 25 Old 10-15-2010, 08:31 AM
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I agree with burnsbabe the guy/gal is looking for help/ideas. Could you maybe talk to the local fish store not pet smart as like was pointed out above they most of the time they give wrong info and see if they will trade you the Balas for something else you like? I actually have heard the employees tell people you can keep a male and female betta together all the time which is totally not true.
Another thing I was wondering is why do you use bottled water? I have almost always (15+years) had well water and my fish and plants have done very well in it. Most the time if its safe for you to drink its safe for the fish as well. Plus well water will not have the chlorine and stuff that city water will makeing it actually safer for the fish.

Kindest Regards,
Amanda

Keeping fish its not a hobby it is a passion!

55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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