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post #1 of 17 Old 02-18-2008, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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key things on making a fw tank into a planted fw

what are the key things on making a fw tank into a planted fw tank? like what kind of plants? fertilizers? co2? ect.

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post #2 of 17 Old 02-18-2008, 07:38 PM
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Most of the guidelines are the same as fish. Get plants that have the same light needs, ph and hardness. I never wanted to deal with ferts or tabs so I just use Flora Base or something along those lines. I've had a few people tell me that they didn't like Flourite just so you know. I just odered Volcanic and Flora Base to redo my tank since i hate the Flourite and think that's whats keeping my gh so high while my kh is 0. Someone else told me they had the same prob. I don't bother with co2...don't need too. The plants I just got last weekend have doubled/tripled in size just with Flourish Excel which I won't even need once I get the new substrate. Prune the plants as needed and clean up old leaves so your nitrates don't jump.

There's certain plants that I just can't grow and other that I do wonderful with. Give it a try!

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post #3 of 17 Old 02-18-2008, 07:43 PM
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All I do is light my tank for 12 hours a day, and add CO2 with my CO2 diffuser. My plants are sprouting new leaves and growing closer to the surface. One plant I bought was probably 2" from the surface when I bought it, and now it is over the surface and sprouting new leaves. I have no ferts, no special lighting or substrate.

About once a week I add "plant food," if that does count as a fert.
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post #4 of 17 Old 02-18-2008, 07:56 PM
First of all you must decide what you can provide for a planted tank. Is your tank low light, medium light, or high light. You must also decide what plants you wish to keep. You must research the needs of the plants, soft, acid water, neutral water, ect. Oh, and by the way, you will need to see if your fish will eat or destroy plants.

Now, having done your homework, you can decide on whether or not you want to spend the money for upgrades. Things like lighting, CO2 injection, timers can be not only useful, but necessary. The first two upgrades I would make, if warranted, would be substrate and lighting. Substrate for sure and lighting if needed. CO2 injection can be an expesive deal. Just the hardware, controllers and valves, ran me $150 and that did not include the tank or CO2!! Timers are nice for the lighting, but they can also be used to control the CO2 system. My timers ran either $49 or $79 each and those were a semi-basic timer/power strip. The newer systems I have, the timers, again, cost about $149, but they provide power to the entire system, including moonlights.
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post #5 of 17 Old 02-18-2008, 08:51 PM Thread Starter
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k i have this for fish

4-angelfish
2-blue sunset gouramis
3-black skirt tetras
1-glassfish
1-java loach/black kuhli loach
1-albino pleco
3-african dwarf frogs

and hopefully

4-angelfish
2-blue sunset gouramis
7-black skirt tetras
7-glassfish
7-java loach/black kuhli loach
1-albino pleco
3-african dwarf frogs
maybe 7-cordoas

any problems there (asides from to many fish).

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i have 4 florescent lights that say PL-18W 220V/240V/6400K (don't know what it means) it is very nice lighting really bright and white. i will research the needs of the plants when i know what i want to get.

any ideas on good plants right now? i have plants that look like banana leaf plants.

55 Gallon Aquarium
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3 Black Skirt Tetras
4 Angelfish (3 Marble, 1 Gold)
1 Glass Fish
2 Blue Sunset Gourami
3 African Dwarf Frog
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post #6 of 17 Old 02-19-2008, 03:41 AM
Angels and gouramis are plant nibblers. The plecostomus, being basically a vegetatrian, will eat plants if not properly cared for and fed.
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post #7 of 17 Old 02-19-2008, 12:49 PM
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If the plecos are big they tend to pull the plants up just moving around in the tank. I had a pleco that decided for me which plants I could keep because if he didn't (or I guess, liked the plants) i'd wake up in the morning and have nothing but a stub! Now it seems that my cories have taken to my ancharist so I don't have much of that left!

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post #8 of 17 Old 02-19-2008, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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do cories or catfish do the same job as a pleco in a big number?

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post #9 of 17 Old 02-19-2008, 07:18 PM
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They won't eat as much algea but they will do a better job at cleaning the bottom of the tank. Plus, once the pleco gets bigger, only about 4 inches, they really don't eat algea anymore. The cories and cats will get everything in the cracks of the gravel or move the sand around a bit.

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post #10 of 17 Old 02-19-2008, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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better to have cories and/or catfish and a dwarf sucker than a pleco?

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3 Black Skirt Tetras
4 Angelfish (3 Marble, 1 Gold)
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