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post #11 of 17 Old 04-07-2007, 02:24 PM
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honestly...if you have the money, just buy a 10 gallon tank, buy a heater, filter for a 20 gallon tank, substrate(river rock) and some decor of your choice...then you can get a nice school of tetras...little tanks are ALOT more trouble than a 10 or larger.
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post #12 of 17 Old 04-07-2007, 07:23 PM
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i agree the waste particles just are very noticable whereas boig tanks they settle at the bottom lookin inconspicuise

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post #13 of 17 Old 04-07-2007, 08:01 PM
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id go for a 20 gallon long tank. they are a perfect size for on top of a dresser i think. i get compliments on mine a lot.

for the filter... id recommend getting a filter that is rated at a larger amount than what your aquarium holds... ie - for a 20 gallon tank get a 35 gallon filter. this is because from what ive read, most filters are over rated.

as for a heater ..... i just picked up one today for $18 that is rated at 30G for my 29G tank. it is a marineland stealth visitherm unit. it is one of the most accurate heaters on the market from what ive read.

for decor.... make sure tif you get a 'ground' fish, that you have a place for them to hide.... by 'ground' fish i mean... cories, plecos, or sharks. add some plants for the fish to play around in

lighting.... i picked up a fluorescent light fixture at fredmeyers and added the bulb and it sits on the lid to my tank which i cut out of plexi-glass myself. that was a cheap alternative to buying an expensive lid. i have done this to both my 20 and 29 gallon tanks.

now i no i will catch heat for promoting Petsmart, but i am yet to have troubles with them:
if you have a Petsmart in town. they will honor anything you print off there website generally. that is how i got my heater for so cheap. it was priced at $32 in store and $18 online. so you will be able to get some better deals on equipment if you go that route.

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post #14 of 17 Old 04-07-2007, 09:51 PM Thread Starter
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thx again everyone for the responses!

I stopped by a local fishy store today and talked to them about it... but the guy I was speaking with seemed to reccomend that I use fish in my cycle... his reasoning was that I would learn more from it and all based on how the fish reacts and what not, iunno really... but I dont really want to put a bunch of little fishies through that kind of horrible experience... I personally would not enjoy someone locking me in a room full of deadly chemicals...

anywho, he said he can give me:

-10 gallon tank (should I try for the 15? or is 10 fine?)
-Filter (if it's not rated for a larger tank, should I try to get a bigger one?)
-chemical stuff (erm... you know, all that stuff, cant think of it right now... kinda tired ^^)

and more... but I cant think of it all! sorry! lol...

he said all I would need is gravel, decorations, food, and fish...

umm, I think thats all I have to say for now. Let me know what you all think!

Thanks again everyone, hope to hear from you soon.
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-08-2007, 12:11 AM
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If you can do it, get the 15 or a 20. Just more tings you can do with them. As for cycling, tank size has nothing to do with it unfortunately. I have had a 10 gallon cycle in 2 weeks and I have had one take 8 weeks. Both were seeded and fed the same way with the same fish. This was before I knew about fishless cycling. My first fishless cycle in a 10 gallon took 6 weeks using fish flakes and pellets to feed the tank and I put a lot in.

The LFS person would recommend to cycle with fish, they will make more money off of you when you have to come back and buy more fish because the ones you just got have died. Here is link to properly cycling a tank. http://www.fishforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3738
Should help you cycle your tank anyway you decide to do it. If you cycle with fish you will have a lot more water changes to do. Fishless is a lot easier and testing can be done 2-3 times a week instead of daily.
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post #16 of 17 Old 04-08-2007, 03:51 AM Thread Starter
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Alright, I'll try for the bigger tank then.

And I read your guide to fishless cycling earlier and I was wondering if one of the methods is faster than the others..?

If possible, I'd like to get the process done as soon as possible...

Also, at the place I went too; They had the fish laid out all organized and all, and it all the "aggresive" type fish (well, maybe not "all") had the gravel in their tanks all moved around and such, can this be bad in any way? just wondering, haha..

anyways, thanks again guys.
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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Fastest way is to add seasoned gravel, seasoned filter media, seasoned ornaments and lots more seasoned gravel. I can not recommend things like Biospira because unless your LFS that you get it from takes the best care of it you could be wasting your money. Tank could cycle in 2 weeks that way but I wound never accept reading of 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites after 1 week as cycled.
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