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post #1 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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just a few questions from a newb

So I am new to the world of aquariums and am about to start my first one. I picked up an aqueon 29 gallon deluxe kit. It came with a tank (roughly 30" wide by 19" tall by 13"deep), heater, light shroud w/ plant friendly bulb, aqueon quietflow 30 filtration, and a few other miscellaneous things. I already have some caribsea super naturals substrate (will this be good enough for plants?) that I am waiting to put in. All I am waiting on to get the cycle going is a few plants, some driftwood, and ammonia, but I cant seem to find any ammonia.

Anyway on to my questions. I am trying to stick to a south american theme with the fish and overall look of the tank and I have a pretty solid plan for what I am going to put in it. So far its looking like:
1 raphael cat
4 peppered cory cats
6-8 neon tetras

I am looking for a good suggestion for one more south american fish to put in there. Maybe one that hangs around in the mid level of the tank since the tetras will be up top and the cats on the bottom. I was leaning towards an angelfish or maybe some guppies, but I wasnt sure. Also do you guys think the bottom will be too crowded with so many catfish in there? Thanks in advance guys

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post #2 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 02:28 AM
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Which sand is it? I've used a few of them, and as long as its not moonlight sand, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Moonlight sand is just ridiculously fine - like beach sand. Not practical for many aquarium applications.

Neons will occupy the lower half of the tank. I would ultimately have more than 4 Corys, but 4 is a good start.

Black neons are good schoolers and will stay in the top half of the tank. Other choice for SA fish or the upper region of the tank would be hatchets. At least I think they are SA. I don't really know much about them.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta

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post #3 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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its just brownish sand that they call super natural. so its not the moonlight. i had considered hatchets as well. im going to my local store tomorrow to see what they keep in stock and if they can do special ordering. that might make the difference
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On the bag somewhere it will say what it is. Sunset gold is my guess. That was my favorite sand.

Yes, you can only by fish that are available to you

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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post #5 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 03:04 AM Thread Starter
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does anybody have much luck with ordering fish online from sites such as liveaquaria.com? they have a wide variety of fish available
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post #6 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 03:10 AM
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hi
i loved my catfish,just rarely saw him , by the time he was coming out
i went to bed.
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when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #7 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 03:20 AM
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I order from aquabid.com

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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post #8 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 08:59 AM
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The sand is fine for plants no worries there. The bulb you know what it is? I know you said it was a plant bulb but some of those are not the best for them. I have that same tank which is planted. I have one 24" T8 light strip on it. Might be similar to what you have with the kit. In that strip you need a bulb that has some intensity to reach the bottom of the tank. I use to use just a daylight bulb from GE but my plants were struggling with it. So now I have a Zoo Med ultra sun trichromatic super daylight. It works pretty good but I can still only grow low to a small amount of medium light plants. Another light you can use is a Hagen Life-Glo or Life-Glo 2. Either would work.

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post #9 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 02:07 PM Thread Starter
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I pulled the bulb out and it just says that its an aqueon full spectrum. Doesn't go into details on wattage or kelvin or anything like that
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post #10 of 21 Old 09-16-2013, 02:27 PM
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I have heard that those bulbs were ok but not the best. I really believe from my experiences and from what i have read that you will need to get a better bulb for tate tank due to its depth. The two bulbs i mentioned are the best and still cheaper then upgrading a new fixture to get more light into the tank.

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