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Jump starting new tanks?
Old 11-20-2009, 04:53 PM   #1
 
Jump starting new tanks?

I'm in the process of setting up two 20 gallon longs for future fish and am hoping to avoid a very long starting cycle.

I have a very well established 55 gallon and I'm wondering if taking 15 or so gallons from my 55 to start off my 20 gallon. That would add up to a partial water change for both tanks.

Is this a decent way to go about it in addition to getting a 2-3 very hardy fish to help start the cycle.


I know how to do the traditonal cycling method but was curious about doing it this way. My father raised fish on a small commercial scale for several years when I was younger. Which lead to my interest in raising fish and gave me a bit of knowledge. But I don't recall all of it.


This is also my first post. So hello all.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:07 PM   #2
 
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Welcome to the forum!!!
The water will not help you in this case. What you gotta do is take the sponges from your 55g filter and rinse them out in each of the 20g's that will make it "dirty" looking for about 1-2 hrs but that's exactly the beneficial bacteria you need right there, aka inkstand cycling.

After that put whatever plants you want in there and start stocking a few fish each week (or shrimp or whatever you want to house).

To be on the safe side, check the water parameters in this very tanks for the first 2 weeks every day just to be sure nothing harmful peaks up too far (NO2, NO3, Ammonia)
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:25 PM   #3
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum!
Angel is correct, the bacteria you need to cycle a new tank is not in the water itself.
The filter is where most of the bacteria you need is. If you have a cycled sponge or filter media, that you can fit into the new filters, that would work great. (cut to fit, if you need to) If not, another option is to put gravel from the cycled tank into a media bag, and place in the filters.
Both gravel and filter media from a cycled tank, will help seed the new cycle.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:33 PM   #4
 
Thanks for the welcome.

I actually just finished putting 15 gallons from my 55 into my 20 long. I used a bottom siphon. So my 55 got it's cleaning and my 20 long is rather dirty at the moment. Hopefully that will be sufficent. I'm headed into my local fish shops after my girlfriend gets off work for a few plants and a couple hardy fish.

I've just set the one 20 up at the moment. I plan to do the same thing with another batch of water from the 55 in about a week.

See how things go with the first tank before I give it a 2nd attempt.

Hoping to get it set up for a breeding tank. I've wanted a pair of Kribensis for years. But haven't had the room or the money or found a pair when I was looking. Things just never worked out. But I've got room and time. But am having trouble finding some Kribs. But still getting my tank set up properly. I'll probably keep them in the community tank for a while first.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:05 PM   #5
 
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I'm a newb I admit it... and when I was shopping for stuff to set up my new tank, I found Nutrafin 'cycle' biological aquarium supplement. Claims to introduce a safe biological aquarium environment... it inoculates the tank with beneficial bacteria in 3 days. Seems to have worked.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:51 PM   #6
 
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Welcome to the forum Muni! (You'll see this place ROCKS!)

I can't add any more to what the previous answers gave you for the cycling as they were pretty sound answers but I couldn't resist replying because of your Kribensis comment. Good luck keeping them! I have one female in a community tank right now and she is my favorite of the bunch. So I just wanted to say... good luck with them! And if you DO start a pair in a community tank and they spawn... get ready to move every other fish out of there in a hurry (well... the feeble ones anyway) as the kribs will get aggressive!
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:20 AM   #7
 
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Welcome to the forum Muni! (You'll see this place ROCKS!)

I can't add any more to what the previous answers gave you for the cycling as they were pretty sound answers but I couldn't resist replying because of your Kribensis comment. Good luck keeping them! I have one female in a community tank right now and she is my favorite of the bunch. So I just wanted to say... good luck with them! And if you DO start a pair in a community tank and they spawn... get ready to move every other fish out of there in a hurry (well... the feeble ones anyway) as the kribs will get aggressive!
Kribsensis are my mothers favorite and I guess she got me hooked on them although we haven't had any for quite a few years now. But now that I have my own place and somewhere to keep them I'm looking for some. My local fish spot is expecting a shipment in the beginning of the week after thanksgiving weekend. So hopefully I'll have a few.

I have a large 55 as mentioned and may keep a few kribs in it. But I'm setting up 2 other tanks as mentioned. Hopefully 1 of them will be a dedicated Krib breeding tank. That gives me the option of putting any aggressive mates in either my 55 community or the other 20 long, which I don't know what I'm using for yet.
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:10 AM   #8
 
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one thing with the filter sponges from your 55............Angel is correct, moving them will help cycling your 20, but even a better way is to place the sponges in a used pair of pantyhose and place the hose in your tank.....The bacterai will still colonize your new tank and this allows you to remove the sponge-filled hose bag and reuse it again in your other 20 in a few weeks............I never throw away used filter media from any of my tanks.........Shove it in a pantyhose and leave it in one of my larger tanks............I have instantly cycled 10's and 20's this way for a few years and dont lose fish doing it this way..........The clump of pantyhose looks unsightly, but it makes life easy whenyour taking care of 15 to 20 tanks at a time........

Breeding Kribensis in a 20 is all but perfect, get a small shoal of 5 or 6 and let them pair off in there when they are young and you should breed them easily.......Remove the others to another tank and let the 2 become parents.......Very neat to watch............
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:20 PM   #9
 
Well I discovered that my Eheim I've been running for a very long time is a bit too small for my 55. I was checking model numbers and I have the 2211 which is good for up to 39 gallon from what I found on Eheims website. Flows about 78 GPH.

It worked well with only a few fish but now that I'm stocking my tank with more fish since my very large Tiger Oscar died. But it will be fine for my 20 long I suspect. It already has a nice culture in it so it will cycle my other 20 long pretty quickly.

If i go dig i my parents old stuff. We have a Rena Filstar. Which should be big enough for the 55. I'm not sure which size it is yet. Gotta go look.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:37 PM   #10
 
Turns out its an XP2 filstar and has 1 broken clip that keeps the top portion on the canister.
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