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post #71 of 99 Old 05-03-2013, 12:26 PM
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Your experience with the plants is perfectly normal. Try this and that, and some will do well, others won't. Stay with what works.

On the fish, QT is very wise these days. Interesting I had a very similar issue with Diamond Tetra, lost half of them in a few days. Those left (now after 5 months) are not looking the best. I got another group from another store, and they are fine. I have had this same problem with other fish from one store, and no longer buy from them. But I QT everything for 4-6 weeks. Internal protozoan are more common it seems, and there is often no way to see this until the fish suddenly deterioriates and dies shortly thereafter.

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Your experience with the plants is perfectly normal. Try this and that, and some will do well, others won't. Stay with what works.

On the fish, QT is very wise these days. Interesting I had a very similar issue with Diamond Tetra, lost half of them in a few days. Those left (now after 5 months) are not looking the best. I got another group from another store, and they are fine. I have had this same problem with other fish from one store, and no longer buy from them. But I QT everything for 4-6 weeks. Internal protozoan are more common it seems, and there is often no way to see this until the fish suddenly deterioriates and dies shortly thereafter.

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That is interesting indeed. I'll most likely buy more Diamond Tetra elsewhere if the remaining two survive. I was surprised, everything from this store I've been going to seems so healthy. But that just goes to show you never know whats lurking. The Black Phantoms I recently purchased are from the same store and so far them seem perfectly healthy. Same for the Rasboras I previously bought. We shall see!
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good looking tank, qt and dog.

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Currently both my QT tanks are 10 gallons. My next group of fish will be the Rummy Nose Tetra which is supposed to be a larger group of fish (~20 fish) compared to the two groups I've done previously.

I was wondering if I should split the group into two groups and put half in each 10 gallon. Or if its much better that I set up a larger tank to house the full group? I can attempt to find space for my empty 20 long laying around.. Or possibly try and pick up a cheap 20 high (which I have more space for).

ALSO, would it be better to add half that group at a time to the big tank? Add half, wait a few days, then add the other? Or could I add the group all at once?

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Naturally, after talking about how great the Rasbora are doing. One went missing in the last few hours. Just found him laying on his side up in the floating plants, breathing rapidly. I move the plants aside a little and he proceeded to spin around.

Any idea of what this could be?

Just checked ammonia and the rest of my parameters, no spikes. (use the API Master test kit). Did a water change yesterday I think, did nothing different, added nothing extra. Just trimmed plants.
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Currently both my QT tanks are 10 gallons. My next group of fish will be the Rummy Nose Tetra which is supposed to be a larger group of fish (~20 fish) compared to the two groups I've done previously.

I was wondering if I should split the group into two groups and put half in each 10 gallon. Or if its much better that I set up a larger tank to house the full group? I can attempt to find space for my empty 20 long laying around.. Or possibly try and pick up a cheap 20 high (which I have more space for).

ALSO, would it be better to add half that group at a time to the big tank? Add half, wait a few days, then add the other? Or could I add the group all at once?

Thanks again!!

Jessica =)
More space is always better, thinking of both the [physical space and the nitrification from more fish being added at once. But as the rummys will likely be quite small, they would likely be OK together in a 10g. I have a 20g high set up permanently as my QT for new fish, since my fish acquisitions usually means a lot of fish at once. It is planted with plants culled from the main tanks, and has a couple bits of wood. This provides a more natural environment which I believe settles the fish faster. If I need to medicate and the plants might die they are no loss if removed.

When the time comes to add the fish to the main tank, add them all at once, always. Not only will this be less stressful, but the group will enter their new home together which is even less stress for many species.

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Naturally, after talking about how great the Rasbora are doing. One went missing in the last few hours. Just found him laying on his side up in the floating plants, breathing rapidly. I move the plants aside a little and he proceeded to spin around.

Any idea of what this could be?

Just checked ammonia and the rest of my parameters, no spikes. (use the API Master test kit). Did a water change yesterday I think, did nothing different, added nothing extra. Just trimmed plants.
Keep an eye on the fish. Is this still in QT, or the main tank?

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Keep an eye on the fish. Is this still in QT, or the main tank?

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The main tank sadly. The Rasbora is now dead >,<. Counted all of then at feeding time a few hours before. So this all happened in a matter of hours
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I'm sorry to hear. . .

I was just reading another thread in which someone found one of his new rasbora to have jumped and landed stuck on the top of his Frogbit. He caught it in time, and got him back into the water. . .it was a different type of fish (Hengels), but do you think something similar could have happened to yours?

Everything else sounds like it's going really well for you, and the tank(s) look gorgeous! Keep up the great work!
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Yes, just keep an eye on the other fish. Fish do die. I tend not to do anything unless I am fairly certain it is a communicable disease, or if something is obviously wrong in the tank with the water. An individual fish may have been injured internally at some point between the hatchery and the store and your tank. Fish get cancer, heat attacks, liver failure, kidney failure... without dissection this is almost impossible to diagnose, but they are not contagious (unless the disease is being caused by the water conditions of course).

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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