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Old 05-10-2013, 06:09 PM   #91
 
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Can it be mixed with any fish food (NLS pellets, for example), or only flake?
Good question lol :)
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:24 PM   #92
 
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Can it be mixed with any fish food (NLS pellets, for example), or only flake?
Flake was suggested to me, because the oils in the flake food will assimilate the drug. This is why mixing some in the bag ahead of time, sufficient to feed for a week or more, works. It gives the drug time to get into the flake.

I had to use this with sinking foods too of course, and that was not so easy.

You can also mix it with thawed frozen bloodworms.

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Old 05-10-2013, 06:27 PM   #93
 
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When I used this treatment, I mixed the medication in with flake. My reasoning was that fish would eat more flake than pellets, since the pellets are denser? No idea if there is any truth in that, but this method has worked for me two times now

In both cases I used API's General Cure Powder, which is a combination of Metronidazole and Praziquantel - both of which I think were recommended on this thread. I was also treating for an obviously present illness.

ETA: What Byron said sounds even better!

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Old 05-10-2013, 06:31 PM   #94
 
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Another medication for internal parasites is prazipro. It's pretty concentrated - the small bottle will do unless you have a whole bunch of tanks and a pond and are going to use it prophylactically, which you can do.

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I assume you are referring to the liquid that is added to the tank water? I am not aware of praziquantel used as an additive to food for ingestion.

I recently used Prazipro for gill flukes. As with so many water additives, these can be highly stressful on fish, as indeed this was.

These additives do little if anything for internal protozoan, or if they do, it takes much longer. When fish begin dying at the rate of 3-5 each day, you want to get the best drug into the fish where it will do the most good the fastest, and provided the fish are still eating, this is the way to do it.

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Old 05-10-2013, 10:09 PM   #95
 
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I treat every new fish with prazipro while they are in quarantine. Doesn't seem to stress the fish in the least but then I've only treated close to a couple hundred fish with it. Haven't had a single case of IP since I started this practice, for what it's worth.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:33 PM   #96
 
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No more deaths so far. All fish currently being treated with medicated food =)

Hears to healthy fish

Thanks for the suggestions everyone ^,^

Much much MUCH appreciated
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:01 AM   #97
 
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Been a while since I updated... Fish are still sickly with the same strange thing.

At this point, I think I'll just be moving the group out of the 55 and downsize them to the 20 long we have sitting around.

Don't feel safe with putting anything in that tank again. I'll be breaking it down completely and setting up a smaller community in a completely different tank /sigh.

No sense in doing work on a large tank for such a small amount of fish. Who know's maybe its something in the tank itself and they'll miraculously
recover, Heh.

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Old 08-29-2013, 03:53 PM   #98
 
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*SQUEEZES*

I'm so SAD for you! You put so much time and hard work into this tank, and the fish seemed so happy there - I wish I knew something that could help you out. :/

I don't think I'd want to put already sick/stressed fish through a tank move, unless it was going to be a direct benefit to them (like into QT for medication). I could be wrong, but I'd worry that the stress from the move would only make things worse, not to mention possibly spreading a pathogen to another tank. I guess the possibility of there being some contaminate in the tank is there. . . but it seems doubtful?

GAHH! I'm so upset that you're going through this. *hugs* And I hate to see you give up on this tank! T.T
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:40 AM   #99
 
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I'm so SAD for you! You put so much time and hard work into this tank, and the fish seemed so happy there - I wish I knew something that could help you out. :/

I don't think I'd want to put already sick/stressed fish through a tank move, unless it was going to be a direct benefit to them (like into QT for medication). I could be wrong, but I'd worry that the stress from the move would only make things worse, not to mention possibly spreading a pathogen to another tank. I guess the possibility of there being some contaminate in the tank is there. . . but it seems doubtful?

GAHH! I'm so upset that you're going through this. *hugs* And I hate to see you give up on this tank! T.T
Yeah I'm not sure what to do, in the 55 it's much more difficult for me to keep an eye on them while I treat them. They've recently started to dart away and hide in the back left corner behind driftwood and swords for some reason when anyone goes close to the tank.

My water parameters are still in check, and we do water changes weekly. (That's another reason we want to downsize the 55, takes us like 3-4 hours with all of our tanks with all of the trimming and what not.. 55, 46, 10 x2, 5 x3, and 2.5.. the 55 and 46 taking the most time.) Their symptoms are so varied I haven't been able to pin point what it is.

I'm honestly starting to just think it maybe really crappy stock. We're no longer buying from that shop. We've had issues with everything we've bought from there, all the shoalers had similar issues (Rasbora, Diamonds, Black phantoms).We thought it was just a fluke but we recently bought two little plecos that we tried to QT for Matt's tank died with in a week of buying them. Where as the other one (Nessie) from a different store.. is thriving.

We're just weighing our options at this point. Trying to make our lives a little less chaotic while making the fishy lives a bit more stress free.
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