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post #11 of 25 Old 06-28-2012, 04:55 PM
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What kind of fish do you suggest?

I'm not exactly sure how hard our tap water is because we have a water softener that uses salt.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think you might want to do some extra research into using this type of water softener with fish. . . and you will have to figure out exactly how hard or soft the water that you'll be using in the tank is before going any further. . .
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Now I'm not sure about this, but I think you might want to do some extra research into using this type of water softener with fish. . . and you will have to figure out exactly how hard or soft the water that you'll be using in the tank is before going any further. . .
How do I test my pH?

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API makes a test kit for Ph, I wanna say it costs around $7. They also make a test in the same price range for testing Gh and Kh. It's nice to have all of these tests to have a clearer picture of what the levels are in your tank.

On the subject, what test are you using to test your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels? Api's Master Test kit comes with liquid tests for all of the above, PLUS Ph test for around $30. It's one of the better testing kits you can get. . .
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API makes a test kit for Ph, I wanna say it costs around $7. They also make a test in the same price range for testing Gh and Kh. It's nice to have all of these tests to have a clearer picture of what the levels are in your tank.

On the subject, what test are you using to test your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels? Api's Master Test kit comes with liquid tests for all of the above, PLUS Ph test for around $30. It's one of the better testing kits you can get. . .
I'll have to look into it!

I've never tested my nitrates, ammonia, ect before.

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Yes, you can do brackish, but a 10g is quite limited space. I'm not familiar enough with brackish fish to suggest possibiles. If you decide on this, posting in the brackish fish section might get more response.

To the water, i would ascertain the GH and KH from the water supply folks (this would be pre-softener water), without knowing the numbers it's hard to know how to proceed, it may not be all that hard. They should know pH too, but this is a test worth doing with any aquarium from time to time. A pH test kit by API is worth having. Their Master Kit has pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Ammonia and nitrite are important in new tanks. Nitrate and ph is a useful test periodically in established aquaria.

As someone mentioned, the salts added by the softener can cause problems for soft water fish, but not all softeners work the same.

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I think I'm going to have to completely redo my 30 gallon set up. I need to cycle it, test the water, re-decorate, and maybe do live plants.

How long does it take for a 5 or 10 gallon to cycle?

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I think I'm going to have to completely redo my 30 gallon set up. I need to cycle it, test the water, re-decorate, and maybe do live plants.

How long does it take for a 5 or 10 gallon to cycle?
Cycling takes from 2 to 8 weeks normally, but can be longer. The period depends upon the specific biology in the tank.

With live plants, especially fast growing ones and floating plants, there is no discernable "cycle" because the plants use the ammonia fast. The nitrifying bacteria will still establish but it will basically be undetectable with our test kits because the plants grab most of the ammonia.

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Maybe you should do a shrimp tank! I love my shrimp, and in a planted tank with enough of them, they are all over the place.
Or another lovely fish is endlers livebearers, they would love your water. You can get all males to prevent breeding (they are like guppies). The males are these teeny splashes of color, but the females are these 2 inch brown blobs, quite funny actually.
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Cycling takes from 2 to 8 weeks normally, but can be longer. The period depends upon the specific biology in the tank.

With live plants, especially fast growing ones and floating plants, there is no discernable "cycle" because the plants use the ammonia fast. The nitrifying bacteria will still establish but it will basically be undetectable with our test kits because the plants grab most of the ammonia.
So if I do live plants, I won't need to cycle my tank? I just empty the current water and siphon the gravel and put plants in there? Or do I need a specific kind of substrate and lighting and stuff?

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Well for substrate sand works.. For lighting, you need a fluorescent light with a rating of at least 6500 kelvin, which most light tubes should say their rating..
And to avoid the cycle, you need lots and lots of plants, not just a few.

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