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post #41 of 64 Old 03-27-2008, 03:57 AM Thread Starter
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That's great. I'm glad my cry for help has also helped other people too. The death of a fish didn't mean much to me when I was younger, but now I have the means to make sure it doesn't happen like it used to.

Maybe one day I'll be able to run a huge 150 gallon tank.

My next step now is putting some plants in. This will be a real challenge. I heard that it will absorb alot of my tap water's Nitrates.

If anyone can direct me to a great place for newbie tank planters, then please help!

Thanks guys.
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post #42 of 64 Old 03-27-2008, 05:44 AM
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Re: to much!

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Your changing the water much to often...
You're supposed to be changing it 25-50% ONCE a week IMO but alot of other people say that too.
Woops. Once again i display my ignorance in fish keeping. Great job Togiran...
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post #43 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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I just bought the Elodea because it was suggested that I get some in order to control my Tap Water's nitrate level.

I went to Petsmart as suggested, but the only Elodea that they had was home to a bunch of Golden Mystery Snails. Apparently, the woman said that the bunch she gave me had no snails on it, but I can't be too sure. Also, there is a ton of floaty things (looks like plant matter) in the bag filled with water.

Should I rinse the plant before placing it in my tank?

Also, I bought a single 10 watt flourescent bulb. I figured just one would be enough, since it says they're 40% brighter than incandescent bulbs. The bulb will give off the UV needed to support the plant, right?

Will I need another bulb?

Any suggestions you can give me would help a ton. Keep in mind that the Elodea is sitting in it's bag right now, so a quick response detailing the first steps I should take would be amazing.

If there is anything else that you need to know, please let me know.

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post #44 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 08:18 PM
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Apple snails get big, you can probably even sell em back :) If you had those kind you'd probably know it.

Rinse the plant very very well and then dunk it in some dechlorinated tap water before putting it in the tank. Do not bleach dip because elodea doesn't do so well with bleach.

If your bulb says full-spectrum on it then it's the right one. You don't need more than one for your size tank. Generally full-spectrum bulbs need replacing every 6 months because the blue and red in them burn out faster.

There's no guarantee you don't have pond snail eggs or something on your plant, inspect it very carefully and if you spot a snail in your tank just take it out and squish it.

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post #45 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
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Haha, squish it. Or maybe I'll go back to my childhood days and pour salt on them like I used to do in my garden. Grisly thought. I must have been a vicious child...

Suggestions on actually keeping one in my tank? Snails are very interesting creatures in my eyes, but how would it do in my tank + situation? I really like the way their shells look.

Yes, the bulb is indeed full-spectrum.

I'll go ahead and prepare the water to dip the plant in after I rinse it.

When I'm through, I'll go ahead and make an update regarding my fish. It will be a very happy update too.

Thanks guys. You're the best.
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post #46 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 09:39 PM Thread Starter
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My betta is doing very well now!

He's FINALLY eating. He loves his dried blood worms A LOT. I heard that you should only feed blood worms occasionally. He also seems to really like his pellets (after I soften them up with a bit of water from the tank. He hates these betta flakes I bought for him, though. What else should I make part of his diet?

I think he recognizes feeding time now. He seems to stay at the top of the tank when I open the lid, just cruising slowly, looking for food.

After planting the Egeria/Elodea, I will change out 25% of the water again. I've decided to do this every other day.

The Egeria/Elodea came with Golden Mystery Snails. I have no idea how many went in when I put the plant in (after rinsing it as well as I could and dipping it in treated water).
I hope to keep at least one Mystery Snail in the tank, because I find them very interesting. I will probably destroy the rest of them once they're visible. Suggestions on this development?

I put in a single 10 Watt flourescent bulb to help the plant out. I think I'll put in the second bulb, since it looks very silly with just one side of the tank lit up.

Mostly, I want to know about these snails. If anyone has any insight into them, then it'll sure help me out.

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post #47 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 09:43 PM
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hmm idk exactly but my pleco did this after i had to clean his tank totally out and hes ok now just keep an eye on him. O ya does anyone know how to use one of thm there gravel pumps. I had one but couldnt'e get it to work.
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post #48 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 09:48 PM
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sorry my comp froze and the top of pg 3 is all that loaded. Gratz on your betta but if osmeone could answer the above question it would be great.
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post #49 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 10:18 PM
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Those snails should do just fine in your tank. There's really no need to get rid of them- they lay their eggs above the water line, so if you want to stop them from breeding, you can just wipe away the eggs when you see them. They'll feed off of the excess food in your tank, but are fine with plants as far as I know. They're considered decorative snails, not pests, so I'm sure there are lots of people that will happily take them off your hands. Some bettas will harass snails and some don't care at all, so I guess you'll have to see how yours goes. They're a cool little addition to your tank and are pretty low maintenance.
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post #50 of 64 Old 03-28-2008, 11:17 PM
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That's great to hear that your betta is eating and doing well. Betta pellets and occasionally bloodworms is good. Maybe try some frozen brine shrimp.

Yes, I would put the other bulb in your hood if you have the same one I do (All-Glass Incandescent).

Your Mystery snail is most likely a Brig. They're great for cleaning up any excess food from the bottom. Although, with your tank still cycling they might stay in their shell alot because of the ammonia and nitrites (how are the readings by the way?). Here's a good link for some info on them:

150 Gallon - Mostly American Cichlids
135 Gallon - Angelfish Community
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