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post #1 of 17 Old 02-24-2014, 05:06 AM Thread Starter
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I started cycling? Had few problems all ready with cycling all the levels spike?

I found brown slime in my filter? can that cause all the water levels to go up? I have no fish but i do have two plants in my tank, I think it may be a root that got into the sponge?

My filter doesn't have carbon pad, should I get noodles? do i need carbon pad? ( i ask the staff and they said that i don't need one)

All the water levels went high even ammonia, I done 50% change of water and brought ammonia fixer. (Our water supplies has organic matter due to the recent work in our area) My filter is 101f Maxi Aqua one and it's second hand.

Should I be worried that my fake plant is fading colour? should i remove it? can that also contribute to spike water levels.
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post #2 of 17 Old 03-01-2014, 03:03 AM
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I can only really answer some of your questions.

Rotting organic matter can cause ammonia, nitrates, etc to go up. As they release nitrogen when they decompose, it turns into ammonia and is oxidized to nitrite and nitrate.

You do not need carbon.

I don't really think ammonia fixer or whatever is necessary. You only have plants right now. Water changes will be your best friend to remove ammonia. Unless you are cycling, then may you should leave the ammonia to allow the beneficial bacteria to establish.

Is your tank cycled? Ammonia can go up fast, and rotting plants would cause it, because as you may notice, 0.5 ppm is already high. Nitrates are considered high around maybe 50 ppm? So 100-200x less ammonia is needed to be dangerous. It would be strange if your nitrates spiked. What exactly are the results of your test?

I don't know about the fading of plastic plants. However, I know plastic is made mostly of carbon and hydrogen I believe, so doubtful it would contain enough nitrogen to cause any impact on your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels.

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post #3 of 17 Old 03-02-2014, 10:32 AM
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I agree with Austin. Prime is all the ammonia fixer you should need. Are there fish in the tank? If so, keep the ammonia below 0.50ppm and use Prime to detoxify what remains, every other day at least.

I also would like to know the numbers for your tests, and what size tank and how you're stocked.
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post #4 of 17 Old 03-03-2014, 03:33 PM Thread Starter
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All the water level have seem to go down except for ammonia, I have tested the water last night my results was
Ammonia: 8.0ppm
High range Ph: 7.4
Nitrite No2: 0ppm
Nitrate No3 5.0ppm

what should i do? should i do a water change
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post #5 of 17 Old 03-04-2014, 07:09 AM
Yes, do a water change. Ammonia that high will stall the cycle. You goal is to keep the ammonia at 4ppm until it converts to nitrites and then to nitrates in 24 hours (leaving no ammonia) for at least 3 days.
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post #6 of 17 Old 03-04-2014, 10:36 AM
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Do you have live plants or fake? Have you ttested your tap water for ammonia and nitrites? Your ammonia and nitrites are really high for having no fish in the tank.
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post #7 of 17 Old 03-04-2014, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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I have 2 plants at the moment in the tank I have tested the tap water for ammonia and it was 0ppm.

Just wondering do I need to have soil in my tank for my plants? I just have 2 plants that has gravel ? I saw all lot of brown slime which I believe it was brown algae growing
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post #8 of 17 Old 03-04-2014, 04:41 PM
Brown slime sounds like diatoms which are just part of cycling.
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post #9 of 17 Old 03-05-2014, 04:34 AM Thread Starter
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Should i remove the diatoms? I done 50% change of water and added the ammonia lock, the ammonia is still 8pmm...

What did I do wrong? am I pose to have soil in my fish tank? right now I two plants that is in gravel?
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post #10 of 17 Old 03-05-2014, 06:08 AM
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No you do not need soil. Soil will initially add to ammonia levels. Plants don't /need/ it to thrive. However, they do need proper lights. They also need nutrients, etc. if they are new plants, an initial die-off is expected. This would raise ammonia as they decay. Remove what you can. Diatoms should be fine to leave if you want. Feel free to remove them if you desire. Just be patient with cycling. As it continues, the ammonia will go down. I know little about cycling so you should probably follow the advise of reducing ammonia to 4.0 ppm. If you're at 8.0 ppm, do a water change. Again, if you don't have fish you're doing nothing wrong at all. It'll all fix in at most a few weeks, if you follow cycling procedures.
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