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I need advice/help. I'm frustrated and want to quit.
Old 04-27-2013, 07:41 PM   #31
 
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I've limited my light to just one fixture for 6 hours a day instead of both fixtures, stopped using excel, and reduced some of the ferts I've been putting in.

I tried to see if phosphates or potassium is in my water supply by looking at the report but couldn't find if those two are in it. Is there another way to tell. I test for phosphates in my tank and I get zero for results.

I've also gone in and manually removed as much BBA as I could out of the aquarium. Should I just let the things I've done play out for a week or so to see what happens? Do you recommend anything else?
One problem for me is not knowing exactly what the light output is; that is what comes of not knowing about the fixture you have. I did a Google and up popped all sorts of lights. Can you give me a link to some data for the one you have?

On the phosphates or potassium, don't bother. Continue the Flourish Comprehensive twice a week, and Flourish Trace once. No Excel. Continue CO2 during lights on period.

I may have more when I know more about the light, as this is all about balance.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:43 PM   #32
 
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keeping what you have stated in perspective here i am going to have to respectfully disagree. he says he is using pressurized Co2 high light and pre mixed fertilizer. the amounts of macros N,P and K that are mixed within most premixed liquid ferts such as flourish comp in this case is minimal.

my theory is his plants are burning through the macros faster then he is adding them. and with using the flourish comp and flourish trace he is adding a tonf of micros there. i cant see the plants using all thoce micros without comparable macros. from my algae that you helped me with Byron trace and light intencity were my issues (too much of them) since switching some things and stopping the addition of micros and trace and sticking with tabs and comp fert i haven't had a algae outbreak since.

P.S to OP load the pic into paint and rotate it, my pics do the same thing,.
Understood, but he is reducing the light. And, it is often suggested in such cases to go "down" and slowly work back up.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:57 PM   #33
 
Byron, my light fixture is the 48 inch long one. Here is the web link for it. They are dual HO 7,000k, 39w lights. I used 2 fixtures. Now I'm only using one starting today.

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Also I don't have flourish comprehensive. I have flourish trace, flourish and flourish excel. I don't have the comprehensive.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:08 PM   #34
 
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Byron, my light fixture is the 48 inch long one. Here is the web link for it. They are dual HO 7,000k, 39w lights. I used 2 fixtures. Now I'm only using one starting today.

AquaVibrant

Also I don't have flourish comprehensive. I have flourish trace, flourish and flourish excel. I don't have the comprehensive.
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Good, thanks. Taking their data as accurate, one of these fixtures is equivalent in output to three T5 tubes, presumably HO. That is a lot of light. I'm not surprised you have all this algae, it is going to be difficult to balance that light without going with dry ferts daily.

BTW, your "Flourish" is probably the Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium to give it the full name. "Flourish" is the large name with the rest below it on the bottle.

You are able to use only one of the two lights, so that is good. Follow my other suggestions--no Excel, Flourish Comp once weekly, Flourish Trace once, and CO2 diffusion with the light period. I would probably cut back the Flourish Comp from twice to once now that I know more about the light.

Give this 2-3 weeks. If the plant growth begins to really degenerate, up the Flourish Comp to twice weekly, but keep a close eye out for b rush algae increasing.

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #35
 
Byron, I will follow your direction to the letter. Right now I feel dumb, lol. I do have flourish comprehensive. My bad, everyone is allowed a moment of being dumb.

I have gone into the aquarium and tried to manually remove as much BBA as I could and toss it out. I will post any new news or updates in a week or so to let everyone know how it's going.

I added a power head to add some water circulation into the aquarium. It seems I've had a few areas where there have been dead spots with no circulation at all.

Thanks for the help everyone. You guys are awesome and have reassured me that I can control this.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:47 PM   #36
 
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algae is a real pita and everyone has opinions on what causes it and how to get rid of it:P byron put it in perspective by saying to start slow then ramp up. always better to do things that way and wow that is some extreme light XD.

just one of the many hurdles your gunna jump with high tech ^^ it gets a lot easyier after you find the balance. each system is different and finding the balance is really hard with certain setups I feel your pain.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:01 PM   #37
 
Byron,

I wrote your directions on the side of my aquarium with an expo dry erase marker. That way I can follow without any issues. Also posted the date so I can remember when I started the new measures.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:08 PM   #38
 
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ahem... try the rotate option in pant

*turns tablet right side up*
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:11 PM   #39
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Instructions mon the side of the tank... Great idea when you are doing something out of the ordinary or short term.

On the sideways pics... I think that if you turn your camera sideways to take your shots in "landscape" format that they will show up here right side up. Mine do that sometimes and that is typically what is up so I just do all my tank shots landscape now. Either that or I ram them through Paint like Mitch says and rotate them... I need to shrinkify them anyway so it's only an extra click.

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Old 04-27-2013, 09:15 PM   #40
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I looked at the lighting that you have there... althought yours are 48", if I used their 24" fixture to have a comparable size, they would produce about 2.5 times the light that my fixture does... And you have two of them.... 5 times the light levels.

That's a lot of light.

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