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post #61 of 65 Old 05-02-2013, 07:11 PM
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In the photos I see nothing that would make me think there is a potassium deficiency. I still think this is a reaction to the dramatic change last week. For instance, you can expect crypts to melt when anything this substantial occurs.

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post #62 of 65 Old 05-03-2013, 06:43 AM
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You have a beautiful tank. Maybe give it some more time and see if there is improvement in the new leaf production and health.

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post #63 of 65 Old 05-03-2013, 07:30 AM
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Great looking tank.

I think Byron has it, a little melt... OK, maybe a lot of melt. Just watch for new growth and as long as it is green and healthy, the old stuff may just die off. I've been lucky and had none of this other than a few high light plants in my low light tank.

I will say that sometimes vals do this out of the blue and as long as it's not all of them at once and some are fine, you can discount it. Just nip the ends off.

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doesn't the prime lock up the nutrients from the plants for 48hrs? i don't use any conditioner and never have in a planted tank. others will disagree with me here but a penny saved is a penny saved.

pretty tank btw
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" It will also detoxify any heavy metals found in the tap water at typical concentration levels."

I don't know if that renders them inaccessible to plants to use, makes them harder to use or does nothing as far as plants are concerned. I wouldn't use fertilizers for a day or two after a change just in case but if it locked them up away from the plants ability to use them for only 48 hours it really won't affect anything in the long term.

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The shotgun approach to a planted tank with an LED fixture

Small scale nitrogen cycle with a jar, water and fish food; no substrate, filter etc
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post #64 of 65 Old 05-03-2013, 10:34 AM
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From the site:

" It will also detoxify any heavy metals found in the tap water at typical concentration levels."

I don't know if that renders them inaccessible to plants to use, makes them harder to use or does nothing as far as plants are concerned. I wouldn't use fertilizers for a day or two after a change just in case but if it locked them up away from the plants ability to use them for only 48 hours it really won't affect anything in the long term.
When I questioned Seachem directly on this issue, they responded that Prime detoxifies heavy metals so it will negate these in Flourish Comprehensive if added simultaneously. Heavy metals being trace minerals like iron, copper, zinc, nickel, manganese. Seachem suggested waiting 24-48 hours after using Prime before adding Flourish.

I add Flourish the morning after the water change day. I've no idea if the conditioner is still effective or not, and some say this is unnecessary, but I'm in the habit now. BTW, I do not use Prime, but Nutrafin Aqua Plus since that does all I need; it also detoxifies heavy metals, but presumably for no longer than other conditioners like Prime.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #65 of 65 Old 05-03-2013, 11:06 AM
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I use API Ammo Lock in some of my tanks which supposedly doesn't lock up nutrients (other than ammonia) and add the Seachem Flourish Comp at the same time. This works best for me due to my schedule and deteriorating memory. Actually, I haven't noticed any difference in my current results than I did when I was using traditional conditioner and adding the Flourish Comp at the same time. Also, I treat some tanks with the Ammo Lock and some with API Tap Water Conditioner. Again, no noticeable difference. When the Ammo Lock runs out, I intend to use the regular Tap Water Conditioner. It goes a lot farther as a much smaller dose is needed and it is cheaper initially also. These are only my results and I would suggest research and experimentation to make sure what works best for you.

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