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How long does a tank stay cycled w/no fish?
Old 03-26-2010, 06:07 AM   #21
 
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I have sponge filters going in most of my aquariums that could simply be moved into a new tank but they are quite large, Too large for 10 gal. quarantine. Quarantine doesn't seem to set for too long cause I'm always trading fish to fish store for new ones ,or moving fish from one tank to another for rescaping. Have found the few trumpet snails to work pretty well for keeping the filter active. Don't know bout shrimps,maybe glass shrimp.Would be concerned with possible reaction to possible meds if needed.
Wouldn't hurt for me to lose a few trumpet snails but then they too might create an ammonia spike if all were to die suddenly as a result of medications.
Happily (knocks on wood),, I seldom need medications.
For just keeping the quarantine tank 's filter ticking,,the trumpet snails work well so long as I' don't use meds.
Have also used a dozen or so of these snails to cycle aquariums in the past. Just feed em sparingly and between the food,and waste created by the snails, the maturing process (cycling) takes place without daily dosing of ammonia or testing.
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:02 AM   #22
 
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I have sponge filters going in most of my aquariums that could simply be moved into a new tank but they are quite large, Too large for 10 gal. quarantine. Quarantine doesn't seem to set for too long cause I'm always trading fish to fish store for new ones ,or moving fish from one tank to another for rescaping. Have found the few trumpet snails to work pretty well for keeping the filter active. Don't know bout shrimps,maybe glass shrimp.Would be concerned with possible reaction to possible meds if needed.
Wouldn't hurt for me to lose a few trumpet snails but then they too might create an ammonia spike if all were to die suddenly as a result of medications.
Happily (knocks on wood),, I seldom need medications.
For just keeping the quarantine tank 's filter ticking,,the trumpet snails work well so long as I' don't use meds.
Have also used a dozen or so of these snails to cycle aquariums in the past. Just feed em sparingly and between the food,and waste created by the snails, the maturing process (cycling) takes place without daily dosing of ammonia or testing.
This morning I looked into mounting the filter from the 10gl to my display but it's not going to work due to how the display is set up. I just don't have the room due to the way the built in wet/dry and limited openings are set up on that tank. How many MTS do you think I'd have to put in a 10gl to keep it cycled? I have MTS I could take from another tank and put in the 10 gl.
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Old 03-26-2010, 05:13 PM   #23
 
If that's the case then I would buy the ammonia from Ace Hardware. That way you can dose it exactly, no guessing. It took 8 drops to put my 5.5 gallon at 4ppm. A quart of it was 2.49
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:26 PM   #24
 
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[quote=aunt kymmie;351254]This morning I looked into mounting the filter from the 10gl to my display but it's not going to work due to how the display is set up. I just don't have the room due to the way the built in wet/dry and limited openings are set up on that tank. How many MTS do you think I'd have to put in a 10gl to keep it cycled? I have MTS I could take from another tank and put in the 10 gl.[/quote


About a dozen large MTS or two dozen Small ones would work. Just feed em a little food every other day or every two days. Not too much for as you know,,they reproduce in relation to food available.
Wouldn't try placing too many fish at once in the tank, and would test the water to ensure nitrates were present and that ammonia or nitrites did not rise after addition of fish.

Perhaps easiest way is to leave the tank running if you like, and when needed,just rob some filter material from your display tank and place it in the filter for the ten gal just before you add fish (not too many at once).

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Old 03-27-2010, 10:32 AM   #25
 
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About a dozen large MTS or two dozen Small ones would work. Just feed em a little food every other day or every two days. Not too much for as you know,,they reproduce in relation to food available.
Wouldn't try placing too many fish at once in the tank, and would test the water to ensure nitrates were present and that ammonia or nitrites did not rise after addition of fish.

Perhaps easiest way is to leave the tank running if you like, and when needed,just rob some filter material from your display tank and place it in the filter for the ten gal just before you add fish (not too many at once).[/quote]

I'll put in a dozen or so MTS. The problem with adding media from my display is that it's a wet/dry filter. When needed would I just take out a few bioballs and let them float around in the 10gl??
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Old 03-28-2010, 01:58 AM   #26
 
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I'll put in a dozen or so MTS. The problem with adding media from my display is that it's a wet/dry filter. When needed would I just take out a few bioballs and let them float around in the 10gl??

Ahh,I see. (no mechanical material ? pads,foam,sponges)
Were it me,I would then use the snails and as mentioned,the combination of fish food (sparingly),to feed the snails and waste created by them ,,should keep a colony of bacteria alive.
Another option would be to add some biological media perhaps enclosed in a small mesh bag to the biological media you already have. Then when you need some seed material, you could simply remove the bag holding the media,and place it in the filter or hang it in front of return flow on the ten gal.
A small sponge filter hidden in display tank might also be considered but some folks don't appreciate them for aesthetic reasons.Then when you need to set up quarantine,you could simply move the sponge filter to the quarantine tank and you have instant biological filter already colonized.
Have also placed a small mesh bag of media (ceramic noodles,beads,Eheim substrat Pro) in my main tank and just let it set out of site on substrate. Bacteria will colonize this media just as it does the substrate.
A cup full is usually sufficient.
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