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How do you change your water
Old 01-14-2010, 08:20 PM   #11
 
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1. How do you keep your water "stored" until you use it?
I don't. I use it straight from the tap.

2. When or do you treat it before it goes into the aquarium?
When using the Python I add half the conditioner to the tank before refilling and the other half as it's filling. On the smaller tanks (Bettas, 10G's) I fill a 5 gallon bucket with fresh water, temp adjusted by hand, and add conditioner to the bucket as it's filling, then pour into the tank.

3. How do you get it up to temperature?
With the Python I open the valve that allows the water to flow to the sink and use my hand to adjust the temp. Also, as I'm filling the tank I check with my hand. On the smaller tanks I fill a 5 gallon bucket and adjust by hand. I used to use a floating thermometer in the bucket but have gotten real good at adjusting by hand.

4. How do you drain the old stuff off without getting bored while the bucket fills up and spills over?
I gravel vac at each water change.

5. What equipment do you use?
I use a Python on the bigger tanks. On the smaller tanks (bettas, 10G's) I still use a syphon and bucket.
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Old 01-14-2010, 09:27 PM   #12
 
I will have my new aquarium on the second floor of the house in a bedroom. I know the python will reach the tank, but will the end fit on a standard bathtub faucet, would some one here be so kind to see if you can screw your unit onto your bathtub faucet. I know you don't know which unit I have but I the chances are reasonable that the ends are standardized some what.
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:11 PM   #13
 
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I can tell ya in my non-technical terms: It doesn't fit on my normal faucet in the bathtub or the bathrm sink. It does however fit on these kinda longer round one's in my kitchen (which is the reason right there I ain't using mine)
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:25 PM   #14
 
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Actually, when I bought my Python it came with a brass faucet adapter (item F in the link below) and fits nicely onto my bathroom faucet. I do have to unscrew the aerator part of the faucet and then screw in the adapter.
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Old 01-14-2010, 11:49 PM   #15
 
The adapters look promising, I'll be right back, I'll have to go look at my bathroom faucet. Well... definitely not on the tub faucet but on the sink... maybe. With the sink faucet, the issue isn't whether it will fit, but the distance from the faucet to the sink isn't that great. I'll definitely need to measure it out.

However it seems to me, I saw a reference not to do a direct transfer and treat "in aquarium." I'll do my logic and you can help me out in seeing the flaw in my thinking. I'm going to use a hundred gallon tank, the math is easier and I'm going to do a 50% water change. So I take out 50 and put back 50 and treat the water for 50. But the water really isn't 50, its back to 100 gallons so the amount of "treatment" is getting diluted into the 100 gallon tank so the 50 new water is being acted upon by chemicals in the amount to treat 50 gallons.

Any thoughts?
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Old 01-15-2010, 12:31 AM   #16
 
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However it seems to me, I saw a reference not to do a direct transfer and treat "in aquarium." I'll do my logic and you can help me out in seeing the flaw in my thinking. I'm going to use a hundred gallon tank, the math is easier and I'm going to do a 50% water change. So I take out 50 and put back 50 and treat the water for 50. But the water really isn't 50, its back to 100 gallons so the amount of "treatment" is getting diluted into the 100 gallon tank so the 50 new water is being acted upon by chemicals in the amount to treat 50 gallons.

Any thoughts?
If I understand correctly you would put the untreated water in the tank and then treat it in the tank? I would never add untreated water into my tank. Chlorine and chloramine, first off, = bad for tank. And second, my tap has ammonia in it so I wouldn't want to add it straight to the tank. But I have a small 29 gallon and it's easy for me to just get 10-15 gallons of water and treat it. I don't know how I'd manage 50 gallons : )

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Old 01-15-2010, 07:39 AM   #17
 
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If your siphon stops, be sure there isn't any water caught in the lowest part of the hose, or you'll get a mouthful of dirty water! I do use my mouth to get the siphon started, but after it's been pumping dirty water, I put my hand around the end of the hose and suck on that opening, so I don't have to put my mouth where the... things... in the gravel... have gone. But it's all good if you keep your tank clean!
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:41 AM   #18
 
I read somewhere on the net, diseases you can catch from fish and interestingly, there are some nasty things you can get; and one way mentioned getting these wretched things was by aquarium water in the mouth. In my past three lives in the hobby, I can definitely say I've ended up with water in my mouth on occasion. This time around, I'm going to see if there is something out there to start the siphon, without using my mouth this time.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:45 AM   #19
 
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The adapters look promising, I'll be right back, I'll have to go look at my bathroom faucet. Well... definitely not on the tub faucet but on the sink... maybe. With the sink faucet, the issue isn't whether it will fit, but the distance from the faucet to the sink isn't that great. I'll definitely need to measure it out.

However it seems to me, I saw a reference not to do a direct transfer and treat "in aquarium." I'll do my logic and you can help me out in seeing the flaw in my thinking. I'm going to use a hundred gallon tank, the math is easier and I'm going to do a 50% water change. So I take out 50 and put back 50 and treat the water for 50. But the water really isn't 50, its back to 100 gallons so the amount of "treatment" is getting diluted into the 100 gallon tank so the 50 new water is being acted upon by chemicals in the amount to treat 50 gallons.

Any thoughts?
This is not an issue, especially with our water (rsn48 and I are both in Metro Vancouver and the only thing in our water is chlorine though lots of it). But even elsewhere I don't think I would worry about this. Changing 50% of a large tank like my 115g would be so onerous with buckets to pre-treat the water that I am sure I would cut back on pwc's and that would not be good. I did once do this for a few weeks [trying to detect the problem when fish were dying and nothing could be found, so every extreme was tried], used a clean 30-gallon garbage tub to pre-treat the water, filled the tub (sitting up on a table for height) with the Python, then manually siphoned it into the tank when pH and temp were exact--what a business. Fortunately it wasn't the culprit so I'm not doing this any longer.

I run the water directly into the tank and squirt the conditioner in when it starts. One squirt, don't bother to measure, usually a second squirt half way through as insurance. In 15 years I have never had a problem, some of the fish will even swim into the current from the Python (instinct tells them food may be in a current) and I can't imagine that the de-clorinator has worked so fast as to treat the water quite that fast, and chlorine would burn their gills so they wouldn't be doing this if it was causing them stress. The one squirt of NovAqua may be sufficient for the entire tank for all I know. Buying a conditioner by the large 2-litre jug saves a lot of money long-term, and I just fill one of the normal-size containers with the squirt top from the jug.

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Old 01-16-2010, 02:39 PM   #20
 
Byron, yes I am concerned about the amount of chlorine in our water and it is very noticeable by smell in the late fall during our heavy monsoon season. However the new filtration plant is suppose to kick in or has already kicked in and I'm hoping that reduces the necessity for heavy dosing of chlorine.
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