Folks I hope I am not â€œoverloadingâ€ the forum with dialog here but:
The following is excerpted from a PMâ€™s dialog (on the other forum) which Ghost and I have been having.
I hope my experience can be of help to some folks on this forum.
Back to your PM (and many items)
I use beef heart instead of chicken heart because IMHO it is critical to remove all!!! fat. This is not possible with chicken hearts unless you and Ashley do not have anything to do between Thanksgiving and Xmas!
I also do not want my fishies to "get tired" of eating the same thing.
I use carrots, spinach, peas, lima beens, etc. (virtually all veggies except for corn, asparagus and dark beans) for the veggie part.
I use beef heart, cod and shrimp for the "meaty part".
one batch will be beef heart, carrots and spinach;
next batch will be cod, spinach and peas;
next batch will be shrimp, peas, carrots and lima beans
I do fix a batch with chicken livers but only every couple of months as I am concerned about the residual "bad sh.t" in livers.
My fishies love it also.
Controlling the particulate size of liver is much harder than the other "meaties".
When I "screw up" and blend it too much it is very messy!!! to feed.
Several other items from my experience which vary from the literature.
I use 10 Multipurpose Centrum Vitamins instead of 3 per each pound of "meaties".
This must be OK as other than stupidity and 2 cases of ich I have not had anything (that I have observed) wrong with my fishies.
(I believe that a portion of this may also be due to inducing a 1 Tlbsp/ 20G salt concentration in the tank occasionally for pathogen control).
I use 3 packets of yeast instead of 1 packet per pound of "meaties".
I do not use gelatin as is set forth in the literature. My fishies seem to enjoy not having the gelatin in their "groceries" although the mixtures are slightly messier to feed.
The literature says this is a "no no" but I let mixtures "set" for 2 or 3 days before freezing in order that the "meaties" can soak up the yeast, garlic and vitamins.
(I let my last batch set for 5 days and then drained the fluid hoping to increase the consistency of the final feeding mixture.
I will try feeding this when I get back from Chris' ranch.
As you read in a post I mixed some of the fluid with flakes and my fishies went crazy - especially the cories.) Lastly but definitely not "leastly" (as you put it in a post) in one word - Garlic!!!
I use 10 cloves instead of 3.
My fishies love!!! it.
I made a small batch one time without garlic "to see what would happen" (obviously not post doc research in physics but still useful).
Virtually no "feeding frenzy" (I could almost hear my big black angel when he was looking at me saying "the boy screwed up and forgot the garlic").
You asked me what "time it was" and I explained the science of building chronographs.
BTW (some more items)
Have you ever thought about raising red wiggler worms in your house (know this sounds bad but it is not at all, gets rid of food scraps which would otherwise go to the landfill and the material which is generated is very, very good!!! for plants).
Although very small worms they are "theoretically" too large for most of my fishies but I see some of my angels and platties eating them even when they are "already stuffed".
I have also seen my cories eating them when I turn the lights on (go figure why they only eat them in the dark).
I believe these live worms are one reason I am having so much luck with my GN's and QA's.
I put about 50/week in the tank.
Approximately 10% burrow into the substrate but eventually come to the surface and are eaten.