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post #11 of 45 Old 01-21-2014, 08:07 PM Thread Starter
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Not surprisingly.....
Water parameters are the same as before.
I did rinse the filter in the waste water, so we'll see what it is like tomorrow, but there really wasn't a lot that came off of it.
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post #12 of 45 Old 01-23-2014, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, I had a late day at work yesterday, and I only tested the ammonia and Nitrite.
Ammonia-between 0 and .25
Nitrite-perhaps 5.0 ppm It was definitely lighter than it has been.
Did a 50% water change, treated the tank for Nitrite with Prime and tested the nitrite again.
Nitrite-.25

I'll see what it is tonight, but I'm hoping the fact that I wasn't off the chart again on the Nitrite means I might finally be getting to the end
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post #13 of 45 Old 01-23-2014, 01:26 PM
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as the plants (and anacharis is a good one) consume the ammonia they forgo consumeing nitrates.

So it is very possible to have an initial nitrate spike with low or no ammonia spike.


then after a few weeks nitrates drop down.

it called the silent or phantom cycle and a result of the plant action.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #14 of 45 Old 01-23-2014, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
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I have nitrates too, and I don't really worry about those, especially with the daily water changes right now.

But it's these Nitrites that I'd love to see disappear
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Not surprisingly.....
Water parameters are the same as before.
I did rinse the filter in the waste water, so we'll see what it is like tomorrow, but there really wasn't a lot that came off of it.
If you didn't get a lot of slimey gunk out of your filter, your tank is probaly still not colonized with the right bacteria. Somthing is stopping bacteria from colonizing your filterpad.
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"...This is the smallest tank I've ever tried to cycle..."

If you have media or substrate from another tank, you can try to colonize the bacteria that way. It's hard to cycle a 2.5g "cold-turkey".


I managed to use filter media from another tank to set up my 2.6g Fluval SPEC III. It is fully cycled immediately.

Ammonia and Nitrites need to be 0 ideally. NitrAtes are ok. So my suggestion is :
Put some QuickStart to populate the 2.5g tank.

Take the betta out and put it in a one gal vase for a week or two with daily water change and feeding every other day, 2 pellets max/day. Then you can allow the 2.5 to establish some BB.

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post #17 of 45 Old 01-23-2014, 03:05 PM Thread Starter
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The only thing I can think of is "Zeus" eats like a pig.....and he digests everything, because I've been watching to make sure he doesn't get bloated.

He consumes 10-12 pellets of food a day, easily, and he's fed twice a day.

So I don't know if he's putting out so much ammonia that the plants couldn't keep up, and the bacteria are converting the excess ammonia to Nitrite.....

But as you say, something has got to be blocking the bacteria that convert nitrite to nitrate.
But I do have nitrates in the tank too.

But.....it was a little less purple last night. Maybe I'll be surprised tonight.
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The only thing I can think of is "Zeus" eats like a pig.....and he digests everything, because I've been watching to make sure he doesn't get bloated.

He consumes 10-12 pellets of food a day, easily, and he's fed twice a day.

So I don't know if he's putting out so much ammonia that the plants couldn't keep up, and the bacteria are converting the excess ammonia to Nitrite.....

But as you say, something has got to be blocking the bacteria that convert nitrite to nitrate.
But I do have nitrates in the tank too.

But.....it was a little less purple last night. Maybe I'll be surprised tonight.
Wooooooooooooooo

A single beta being fed 10-12 pellets a day.

Way too much from my experience.

Try 3 a day once per day.

betcha nitrates will drop down.

my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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If the fish is healthy and the plant is growing, put the test tubes and chemicals away.
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Wooooooooooooooo

A single beta being fed 10-12 pellets a day.

Way too much from my experience.

Try 3 a day once per day.

betcha nitrates will drop down.

my .02

I thought so too, but he's healthy, he's active, and I've always thought it was how much they can eat in a minute.

He is in no way shape or form getting fat either.

But I think we will cut back on the feeding and see what happens, depending on my readings tonight.
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