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post #1 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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Hello people,

i'm from singapore and i was thinking of setting up a small planted tank for some neon tetras. However i have almost ZERO fishkeeping experience so would someone teach me what to do?(eg cycling, type of filters etc) what substrates to get? what plants to get and how to plant them? (the plants my mom bought before all her fishes died perished within a week)

can anyone help?
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post #2 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 07:59 AM
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Welcome to TFK, Fishta. We are happy that you're joining us.
You have some reading to do! Start here and then after you have a read others will be along to chime in about filters, substrate, etc.

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

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post #3 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 08:09 AM Thread Starter
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yay reading. thanks =)

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post #4 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
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i'm done reading =D moarrr :P haha thanks alot =)

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post #5 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 12:34 PM
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Hi and welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

Now you know about cycling. You mentioned having live plants, so that will help a lot in cycling your new tank. You also mention Neon Tetra so have a look at our profile of this fish for info about it's requirements. Profiles of many fish are under the second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, but you can click on the shaded name in posts to see the profile.

Do you have any idea as to the size of tank you might get? "Small" could mean 5 gallons, 10 gallons, even 20 gallons. This will determine fish options, and we can suggest filters better when we know this. And do you know about your water, is it hard or soft, and what is the pH?

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post #6 of 31 Old 05-07-2011, 11:14 PM Thread Starter
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i would probably get a 10 gallon tank. the PH value is about 7-9, Hardness (as in CaCO3) 50 -120. the tap water in my country is potable so does that help? Total Alkalinity (as CaCO3) 20 - 60 10 -50 @ Total Hardness (as CaCO3) 50 - 120

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post #7 of 31 Old 05-08-2011, 11:14 AM
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i would probably get a 10 gallon tank. the PH value is about 7-9, Hardness (as in CaCO3) 50 -120. the tap water in my country is potable so does that help? Total Alkalinity (as CaCO3) 20 - 60 10 -50 @ Total Hardness (as CaCO3) 50 - 120
"Potable" means safe for drinking. But what is safe for humans is not necessarily safe for fish.

The hardness is OK, I am assuming those numbers are parts per million (ppm). The pH fluctuation from 7 to 9 is dangerous. If it is that variable, you will need to check the pH prior to each water change to avoid too great a fluctuation. Once a tank is established with fish, the pH will naturally settle and it should not fluctuate much or the fish will be stressed.

As for fish, in a 10g you do not have a lot of room. Neon tetra were mentioned, so a group of 7 would be OK (with live plants) and perhaps a bottom fish, like a trio of Corydoras, or a small species of catfish.

Other options are smaller fish, such as Ember Tetra, one of the dwarf rasbora like Boraras brigittae, or Dario dario. With these "dwarf" species, a group of 7 of 2 species would be nice, providing a bit more interest with different colour and behaviours. And one of the dwarf cory species, a group of 7? There are lots of options with small fish.

We have fish profiles here, second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, and you will find many fish species under the characins and cyprinids sections with information on tank size, water, compatibility, etc. When a fish name is shaded in a post, it means that species is included in the profiles and you can click on the shaded name to see the profile, example Pygmy Cory.

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post #8 of 31 Old 05-08-2011, 12:10 PM
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The sticky articles in the plant section are a great read too.

"Basic approach to the natural planted aquarium."

It helps understand what the plants need to be healthy.
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post #9 of 31 Old 05-08-2011, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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okay. is there some types of plants that i should have in my aquarrium? and types of substrate?

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post #10 of 31 Old 05-08-2011, 11:56 PM
the finer the grain for live plants, the better. Helps the plants root better.

What types of plants you can have will depend on lighting and if you are going to be dosing ferts, co2, etc. For basic setups with stock light systems and bulb, you can go for a low-light setup so plants like anubias, swords, floating plants, and crypts will work well. Most plants will work with a low-light setup.
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