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...and here's why I wanna break down & cry....

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#1 ·
Most of you followed the disaster with stocking, death and algae outbreak of my 55g....well weeks later that is finally semi under control...

So as every night I go to feed my 45g aka the "perfect tank"...What do I see on 1 Rummy...white spots....what do I see looking atthe rest in the tank - YES white spots on ALL rummy....the guys that moved in first many weeks ago....

So yea I'm dialing up Temp and surprisingly have ich med's here now anyway and will begin treatment....

I swear to you guys if this becomes the same kinda disaster its caused in the 55g I will seriously break down & cry and STOP having tanks period, I am so behind devastated right now it ain't even funny any more. And I even soaked the new plants well over 2 days and still this crap now....

I am honestly and truthfully about to quit the hobby here. Years & years never had no problem then we move here and I have more sick & dead fish then anyone can count - I used to enjoy this hobby and be happy with it and interested - This all really vanished over the past weeks to sheer frustrations and sadness, that ain't cool any more at all :evil:

So either send me some good luck charm...or watch for my post starting with "5 tanks for sale"....:cry::cry::cry:
 
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#2 ·
NOOOOOOOOOO!!! You can't go. (ehhmmmm) I mean wait a minute :) Tank a deep breath. Don't panic and don't give up. You have helped a lot of people on here. Even me, and I'm helpless most of the time. I see +1 for your info to others all the time. Obviously you know a thing or two about this stuff. Now it's your time to be tested. You have the knowledge you need the willpower. Keep it simple and keep it natural and common sensicle (word?) It's not the end of the world. Fight, fight, we are the champions, fight.

You can do it Angel. I don't always have the best of luck but any good luck I can muster I will and am passing on to you through the electronic waves of energy via the internet. Go get 'em tiger.
 
#3 ·
Being an aquarium noob who's never had to deal with anything like this, I have no words of advice... only well wishes and words of encouragement to never give up fighting the good fight to get your aquarium problems under control.
 
#4 ·
I'll stay here and help, that's outta question.

But me myself am helpless with these devastating sicknesses - It really seems to me by now that the fish I used to have before from private hobby breeders must have simply been much healthier fish then this commercialized %#^@*@ I find here. I'm truly at the end of my rope. And yea I can tell you plenty about lights and plants and what fish goes with whom well etc - But sicknesses I never had, up till now and the last treatment in the 55g shot the whole tank wayyy onto the dark side of things....

I'm tired of it, it just doesn't seem any more like its meant to be - Have my lil shrimp farm and call it even :-(
 
#6 ·
Here's my take on it. It's just ich. =P Take it calm, and just be like...crap my fish are sick. Time to be a doctor. You know the way to do it...dial the temp up, so on and so forth. I was so scared...when my puffer had ich, my $25 dollar 1 and a 1/2 inch fish had ich...I didnt give up on him. I knew hed be fine if I just treated it like a normal thing and had him do his thing. I didn't stress about it. I mean I was going throuugh a terrible plague of fin rot, ich, and some sort of fungal infection and to plain not eating...Yet here I am now with three tanks running just great! The fish are sick...I know it sounds, weird, but just believe in them, and they'll be ok.
 
#7 ·
Oh man - i'm sorry to hear that you're having such crap luck lately. But if anyone can overcome the trials and tribulations of setbacks; it's you. You obviously enjoy the hobby and have the knowledge and experience to get through this bad time. Once these setbacks are over, you'll be able to take a deep breath and enjoy what you love again.

Having said that, I can certainly understand your frustration. Have you tried looking for a better supplier even if you have to travel further to get there? It's not that often that you buy the actual fish and most everything else is easily found online. Usually cheaper IMO.

Hang in there and best of luck getting over this crisis. Sending good wishes your way.
 
#8 ·
@Kelso
When you treated ich before, did it also totally screw up your entire tank system with hardcore 5 diff kinds algae break outs, re-cycling the whole BAD BAD deal??? Did for me the 1st time I faced it on Thanksgiving (and the fish all died on top of it) and that's what's freaking me out complreatly right now with the other tank :cry:
@Romad I have tried 3 diff fish stores (Between TN & GA) so far, unsuccessful. 2 Stores are each with sick fish and the 3rd one I honestly walked out backwards gagging. Needless to say I aviod the big chain stores period for given reasons, so that then leaves me with 0 stores left as far as I could find. I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to find a breeder, but how & where? Its not like they're listed in the yellow pages :-?

Gosh I pray this 45g will NOT turn into the same nightmare then the 55g has and the fish actually WILL survive this (right now I only see it on all 5 Rummy's)
 
#9 ·
No...it wasn't that bad...but I did lose a lot of fish...8 fish...and my tank did go through a cycle again. I know it's hard, but persevere...I was about to go on craigslist and say to heck with it and just put the tanks up for sale. I'm sorry, and hope you guys pull through! But if anything...jack that temperature to 86-87 degrees! Gradually of course ;)
 
#10 ·
Okay, you know I have no experience with fish illness (death, yes, but treatment, no). But I'm wondering if your patients and all inhabitants of the 45 can go to the 55 so you can really heat up the 45 and kill the ich, treat your fish in a tank that already has been effected by meds, and then put the fish back into the 45 tank once they're healed? Can you heat and salt the 45 (along with major gravel vac since don't the ich parasites dwell in the gravel before they swim back up and become a parasitic nightmare?). I'm just wondering if this would help avoid a chemistry swing in the 45 like you had in the 55 with all the resulting problems.
 
#11 ·
and by the way +1 on Kelso's last comment about stressing. It does no good and I know that from experience. As wacko as it sounds I think I put out stressed vibes into the tank environment when I feel stressed. (I told you it was wacko). I'm a natural panicky person and today when I saw a loach with very light stripes (instead of the usual high contrast black) I went into a panic immediately thinking maybe he had NTD or some crazy bacterial infection. A few hours later I checked on him and his color was completely back to normal. I needlessly panic this way.

But yes, it does take a lot of work and energy to treat a tank so I feel ya.
 
#12 ·
Quit the hobby because of an algae outbreak, a few deaths, and ich? I would have been out of the hobby when I started if I had to do that.

I'm sorry, but you are overreacting. Fishkeeping is a HOBBY, and not something someone should be stressed or pressured into. We do this because we love it and KNOW that there will be bumps in the road.

Just sit down and go to through the situation maturely. You need to relax.
 
#13 ·
Please don't get offended...but I just remembered this and I hope you'll laugh

Snap out of it!
 
#15 ·
Kelso...I don't think I can go as far as 86-87 considering Rummy's appreciate a max of 80...I don't wanna kill the ich along with the fish :-(

Stephanie: Won't do, granted its only 3 fish in the 55g but I do NOT wanna infect them too, moving fish to a clean tank is not a good idea IMO and then I'd still have to kill off the ich in the 45g some way. This way now I'm *trying* to cure the fish and the tank at the same time....hopefully

Cody: The algae was a hassle to get under control, but manageable. But to ONLY have sick fish when ever I try buying some - That just starts to seem pointless to me, get fish, they get sick, I try treatment and they die - What's the point in fish keeping then? A(!!!) sick or dead fish every once in a while ok - But Only sick & dead fish - That ain't cool no more!?

Update this AM: Everybody still seems alive, 1 Rummy is going upside down thou and its not looking got for it judging by the looks....
 
#16 ·
I know the feeling! I have had fish for so many yrs and always loved to keep them. But, this "dream" tank of mine has turned out to be a nightmare! I'm going to stick it out though. I know I can beat it! I have white coating all in my tank right now, looks like it snowed in there. I'm figureing it's some sort of algae. Along with that High ammonia, nitrite showing up now, and PH that will not stay in one place. Multi deaths, and loss of baby fish due to water being so screwed up.
Pick up rock, aim at middle of front glass, throw rock, problem solved!! We could never do that.
 
#18 ·
Well temp is as far up as it can go with the guys that are in there...Meds been administered 2x so far....all I cn do now is keep up the meds and see what happens over the next few days...there's not much else i know of that I could do......
All else fails I'll get me CPO again and make the 45g one heck of a CPO farm LOL or drain it & make it frog habitat or something...

I just wish I could find another source for fish then the one's I found here.....
 
#20 ·
Update Day 3:
So far Temp's been successfully raised w/out issues with anyone. Meds been administered 2x so far (again tonight) and so far (knock on wood) no losses. Which I'm hoping is a GOOD sign, as my Cardinals were ALL dead by day 3 - so I'm hoping this means cure is undergoing there.
 
#22 ·
Hooray! Good news!
 
#23 ·
I think I need to open a new thread under Sickness thou....Last time like I said the Cardinals all died within 3 days (less actually)...I don't know how long for I need to run the high temps and treatment...maybe a week? I donno???
 
#24 ·
Keep the high temps and medication up for four days after all signs of visible ich are gone. It's a sure-fire way.
 
#25 ·
4 days after spots on fish are gone, got it....

Thou really I have albino cory's in there and I can NOT tell if they have white spots or not....so would it be safe enough to judge by the Rummy's and other fish only???
 
#26 ·
If your albinos are like my friend's, then they have somewhat translucent fins, right? My bronzes and peppereds have a translucent dorsal fin...and ich is always present on fins as well as the whole body. If the fins are free of the white spots, then your corys don't have ich (99%). Ive noticed on every fish I've had with ich, the fins were almost always the first body part afflicted with it. But yeah, most likely if you use your other fish to judge, youll be pretty safe. This is a well established tank, right? Your cories will probably shrug it off anyway! =)
 
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