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post #11 of 15 Old 02-16-2012, 12:46 PM
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Trying to artificially maintain a PH does not often end well, unless you plan on using a mixture of tap and RO water. I would just go with your tap water and plan around that.
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post #12 of 15 Old 02-16-2012, 12:53 PM
those black ruby barbs are gonna be nice to watch :) they are playful very active always tagging each other and males fight between each other is very nice to watch!
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Trying to artificially maintain a PH does not often end well, unless you plan on using a mixture of tap and RO water. I would just go with your tap water and plan around that.
This is true you have to stay on top of it. a pH meter helps unless you like pulling out the pH test kit daily. I have to mix my water with perfect pH 8.2 for my cichlids since I use RO water being that my tap water is rather aweful.
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Ok I think i have figured out the fish I want in both tanks which i hopefully will pick up this weekend. so it will still be awhile before everything is set up, but a little planning never hurt anything :)

125G
15 Black Ruby Barb's
12 Branded Dwarf loach
8 Angelicus Loach
15 Marble Hatchet Fish
8 African Dwarf Frog's

Not sure about Alge eaters yet

55G
10 Black Phantom Tetra's
10 Cherry Barb's
6 Angel Fish

Not Sure about the Alge eaters.

From what i read on the profile pages they are all in the same range of ph, temp, non aggessive, and like plants. Do you think it is too many fish in each tank or am I about where i should be to have fully stocked tanks? Any suggestions in regards to this mix and/or plants that might be good with these fish is greatly appreciated.

I really appreciate everyone's advice.
A couple suggestions on these lists, off the top of the bean. Marble Hatchets would be better in the 55g. The angelfish shouldn't bother them, especially since the angels will presumably be relatively small when acquired. The barbs are very active, and this would un-nerve the sedate hatchets. This will also add some upper interest in the 55g which as someone mentioned is lacking.

Branded is meant to be Banded dwarf loach I presume...and rather than this species in so large a tank with the Botia kubotai I wold suggest Botia striata. Both of these are peaceful (not all loaches are); the possible fin nipping mentioned in the profile would only likely occur if you had fish like angels with them. The barbs will be fine. You might want to lessen the number of both loaches though, 6 B. kubotai and perhaps 8 B. striata?

You could reverse the tanks. Angelfish etc in the 125g, barbs etc in the 55g? Angelfish do grow to 6 inches with 8-inch fins and 6 would I think look more "natural" in the larger space.

Plants. Echinodorus (the larger species, a couple are in our profiles) in the angel tank. Pygmy chain sword on the substrate. That could be fairly simple; we often like to have too many plant species and trouble ensues. Fewer plant species tends to enlarge the space visually, and angels cruising among the tall swords is a beautiful sight.

Black Phantom is fine with angels; I wold also consider one of the red related species, Hyphessobrycon bentosi or H. rosaceous for some colour. If you go with these in the 125, you have more space for larger shoals and these fish definitely are better the more there are.

I agree with previous comments on the "algae" fish. Don't get fish just for this, it sholdn't be necessary. But if you like a species that happens to eat algae, fine. Someone mentioned the whiptail catfish, they will eat common green algae. A small group of oto cats in the angelfish tank would be nice, they will keep the sword leaves clean. Remember that almost all of these algae fish only eat common green algae.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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A couple suggestions on these lists, off the top of the bean. Marble Hatchets would be better in the 55g. The angelfish shouldn't bother them, especially since the angels will presumably be relatively small when acquired. The barbs are very active, and this would un-nerve the sedate hatchets. This will also add some upper interest in the 55g which as someone mentioned is lacking.

Branded is meant to be Banded dwarf loach I presume...and rather than this species in so large a tank with the Botia kubotai I wold suggest Botia striata. Both of these are peaceful (not all loaches are); the possible fin nipping mentioned in the profile would only likely occur if you had fish like angels with them. The barbs will be fine. You might want to lessen the number of both loaches though, 6 B. kubotai and perhaps 8 B. striata?

You could reverse the tanks. Angelfish etc in the 125g, barbs etc in the 55g? Angelfish do grow to 6 inches with 8-inch fins and 6 would I think look more "natural" in the larger space.

Plants. Echinodorus (the larger species, a couple are in our profiles) in the angel tank. Pygmy chain sword on the substrate. That could be fairly simple; we often like to have too many plant species and trouble ensues. Fewer plant species tends to enlarge the space visually, and angels cruising among the tall swords is a beautiful sight.

Black Phantom is fine with angels; I wold also consider one of the red related species, Hyphessobrycon bentosi or H. rosaceous for some colour. If you go with these in the 125, you have more space for larger shoals and these fish definitely are better the more there are.

I agree with previous comments on the "algae" fish. Don't get fish just for this, it sholdn't be necessary. But if you like a species that happens to eat algae, fine. Someone mentioned the whiptail catfish, they will eat common green algae. A small group of oto cats in the angelfish tank would be nice, they will keep the sword leaves clean. Remember that almost all of these algae fish only eat common green algae.

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Thank you all for the advice, so much to think about!!

I will hopefully be picking up the tanks this weekend and will post some pics when get them.
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