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Old 06-10-2009, 05:17 AM   #11
 
Aaaaaaa! Bad news. Overnight almost all of my fish died. Now only one white cloud remains. This realy upsets me but i am determined to go on. So far my fish keeping experiece has been a bad one but I want to make it good. will my tank still cycle with just 1 small fish?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:02 AM   #12
 
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Aaaaaaa! Bad news. Overnight almost all of my fish died. Now only one white cloud remains. This realy upsets me but i am determined to go on. So far my fish keeping experiece has been a bad one but I want to make it good. will my tank still cycle with just 1 small fish?
I am sorry you lost the fish. Yes, one fish will cycle your tank. Earlier it was suggested this is a 5g tank, but you posted dimensions of 36x22x26 -- is that inches? If so, you have something closer to a 50g, and a couple of hardy fish like the danios would cycle it better. But before you jump into more trouble, let's get your tank size confirmed so I and others can best offer guidance.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:14 AM   #13
 
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Yeah, I calculated based on CM... I assumed that from the pics. I may have been wrong in assuming CM, if so, sorry for the confusion.

Sorry to hear about the fish,just hang in there, before you know it, you will have a beautiful tank if you keep putting time and effort into it like you have so far.
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:11 PM   #14
 
there is one solution which is to do constant water changes, once or twice a day, 30% roughly to keep the ammonia down. Danios are very hardy, if you bring ur ammonia down it will do a little better. Another option is to take the danios out and put them in a bucket with fresh water and stress coat. Change 50% of that water daily and let your tank cycle for a couple of weeks. I made this mistake too when i started my tank and a friend told me the bucket idea and thats what i did. My 4 giant danios made it through in a 5 gallon bucket for 2.5 weeks :-/. well i guess it might be a little late now.. but saving one is better than none.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:48 AM   #15
 
Hello. Today I came home to find that my tank water is much cearer! It's not crystal, but it is much better than before. And my only white cloud seems to be much happier too. Why is this? Might it be the result of the absence of the other fish and now the ammonia levels are lower? My white cloud is still not eating but i just know it's healthier than before . I wander if there is still enough ammonia to finish the prosess.....

Also, sorry for the confusion. My tank dimentions are in CM.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:18 AM   #16
 
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Hello. Today I came home to find that my tank water is much cearer! It's not crystal, but it is much better than before. And my only white cloud seems to be much happier too. Why is this? Might it be the result of the absence of the other fish and now the ammonia levels are lower? My white cloud is still not eating but i just know it's healthier than before . I wander if there is still enough ammonia to finish the prosess.....

Also, sorry for the confusion. My tank dimentions are in CM.
OK, so this is a smaller tank [Arkamaic, you had it figured correctly!], a 20 litre or 5 US gallon tank. Knowing that, yes, the white cloud will start the cycle. Yes, the whitecloud's improvement is due to the slightly improved water quality because the bacteria are beginning to handle the ammonia and with only one fish there is less of it.

Do you have a test kit as someone earlier suggested? API make a good one that includes ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH. You ammonia will rise and then fall (to "0" in 5-8 days from the first fish going in the tank), and near the end of this phase the nitrite will rise sharply and then drop back to "0" (another 5 or so days). When you have readings of "0" for ammonia and nitrite for several consecutive days (only need to test once a day), the tank is cycled for the bioload in it at that time. You can then add another fish or two, slowly, waiting a couple of days between each addition to allow the bacteria time to multiply to the level required to handle the increased ammonia/nitrite.

As earlier members said, you were way over-stocked. A 5 gal tank is too small for giant danios. You will be OK with a small group of whiteclouds (6 would be fine, they like being in groups) and 3 small species of corys, but that is about it. You will need to do a partial water change of minimum 25% of the water volume every week, and with good filtration and no overfeeding you should have no problems. But add the new fish slowly as I indicated, and only after the tank is cycled; initial cycling can take anywhere from 2 to 8 weeks; your test kit readings will tell you how it's progressing.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:26 PM   #17
 
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just remember ! Small tanks harder to maintain! Get used to lose your fish now and then.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:20 PM   #18
 
haha no! dont get used to dead fish, that's... depressing. small tanks are only more difficult to take care of because anything introduced to the tank such as ammonia would have a much more intense concentration. 5 fish in a 10 gallon would produce ammonia but it wouldnt affect the fish as severly as in a 5. Once you get it cycled, as long as you dont introduce any foreign chemicals or harmful substances to the tank, itll be as easy to care for as a 10 gallon or larger.Sure nitrates will be a wee bit higher but as long as you dont overstock too much and have a good filter itll be ok.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:17 PM   #19
 
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Yeah, smaller tanks are harder to care for, but don't let it scare you. I've been working on getting my new 2.5 nano cycled till it was finished last night. Just put the betta today.

As long as you take it slow, and do things right and don't rush, you'll be fine.
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:05 AM   #20
 
Than you so much, everyone. Today my tank water is clearer still and my white cloud is still alive! Hard to believe but it is . I will be getting an ammonia/nitrite/nitrate test kit soon, hopefuly on the weekend. I was also thinking of getting 1 or 2 nails to help clean up any uneaten food. would this be ok? Also, how long will my white cloud be able to live without eating? It is still on its hunger strike and i never see it eat anything. i put it a small pinch of fish flakes every day but it never eats them and I always end up scooping them out of the water before it pollutes my tank.

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