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post #31 of 37 Old 08-10-2010, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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First off, I hate to gravedig (bring back old posts) but I broke down and bought a Betta.

Would any of the fish in this thread do well with a Betta?

I'll assume that loaches are fine, but I was hoping for something in the middle levels...
(chain loaches are a bit expensive...)

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post #32 of 37 Old 08-10-2010, 03:15 PM
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I have Neon Tetras with a Betta in a 10g tank.I've seen people on here say that they don't work together but mine don't pay much attention to each other and I haven't had any issues with the two.Just guessing but something like Harlequin Rasboras would probably be ok too.My dad has a Betta in his guppy tank with no problems.The Betta doesn't even bother the fry.

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First off, I hate to gravedig (bring back old posts) but I broke down and bought a Betta.

Would any of the fish in this thread do well with a Betta?

I'll assume that loaches are fine, but I was hoping for something in the middle levels...
(chain loaches are a bit expensive...)
Assuming you mean a male Betta splendens, yes and no. First, I am in good company saying that this fish deserves its own space. Females do well in community tanks if in a group of 6 or so, males do not. Never more than one male in a tank, and on his own is preferable for the fish's health.

Having said that, if space permits, suitable fish can include bottom fish like Corydoras, Otos; mid-water fish of the genus Trigonostigma (the "common" rasbora). Boraras are so small they would inevitably be eaten, depending upon the temperament of the particular Betta. Any other fish with colourful finnage (such as guppies) are usually seen as "rivals" and cause the Betta to be aggressive or stressed by the annoyance of perceived rivals.

And at this point a comment on the issue in the subsequent post. Different fish within a species can behave differently. But what must be remembered is that this species is programmed a certain way by nature (even though this is something of a "domesticated" species now). It has inherent traits and instincts. And just as with all animals (and humans) different factors can affect the fish's behaviour with respect to these traits and instincts. And it can go either way, better or worse, from the inherent trait/instinct. Largely due to environmental stimuli as a recent (and the first) scientific study on shoaling fish has now proven.

The reasons for keeping a male Betta splendens alone are several. First, the behavioural aspects alluded to above. Second, many fish, including even those otherwise "peaceful" can turn nippy in the presence of so tempting a target (same holds for angels). Third, Betta are quiet calm fish; over-active fish around them is unsettling, adding to stress and this means poorer health. Aggressive eaters can cause a Betta to not eat properly, and even refuse to eat, a common issue again with angels, discus, and gourami, if kept with too-active a fish.

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Do you think 3 Botia Kubotai would do well with the Betta, or would they stress him out?

Was thinking of the biotope thing still, so neons and tetras are out.

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In my opinion, bettas are sedate fish. With the boisterious personality of the loaches, I personally wouldn't mix the two.
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I agree with Lisa. I tried a group of B. kubotai in a 70g with Chocolate Gourami (and several other quiet fish including some Trigonostigma espei). I was concerned about the loaches' activity level, and I kept close observation. I could not detect any particular stress to the gourami--they never would flee if a loach approached, they continued to feed from the surface when the loaches also did the same (as loaches frequently will do), so things seemed fine. But I now have three of nine gourami, the others developed some sort of skin disorder which is very common in this species when they are stressed. I can't be sure it was the loaches, but they may well have been a contributing factor.

Aside from my previous possible suggestions for tankmates (which by the way I garnered from a reliable source) I still say a male Betta splendens is a stand-alone fish. A perfect fish for one of those Nano-style 5g tanks. They were made for each other.

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Maybe it's a personality thing, but my Betta Splendens seems extremely active. I suppose I'll keep him in the 5...

Is a 2 gallon cruel and unusual punishment? He seems active and is making a bubble nest...

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