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Old 11-29-2009, 03:34 PM   #11
 
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The filter is where most of the cycle bacteria lives. What type filter do you have? Is it a bio-wheel filter? Do you have a sponge in the filter, or do you run only one carbon filter pad?
Where you getting a zero reading for ammonia and nitrites before replacing the filter media?
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Old 11-29-2009, 04:11 PM   #12
 
I believe I have a black sponge and then 1 carbon filter bag, but everything was fine with the first bag. Then I bought these where I had to pour the carbon into the white filter and then rinse it under water. I did that now I'm thinking I may not if done it long enough. Also moving all the decors and everything made the tank cloudy to from the fish droppings and everything.
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Old 11-29-2009, 04:42 PM   #13
 
How long did you wait until you put the dechlorinator in?
Also, if you put all new filter media in and also did the gravel as well as stired it up bad your ammonia may have gone up real quick.
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Old 11-29-2009, 05:39 PM   #14
 
Ok yea so this was probly my mistake. Ok so how do I fix this, I did a chemical dose to lower it all. Says to wait like 24-48 hours I think before next dose, so should I keep dosing it?
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Old 11-29-2009, 05:50 PM   #15
 
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Ok yea so this was probly my mistake. Ok so how do I fix this, I did a chemical dose to lower it all. Says to wait like 24-48 hours I think before next dose, so should I keep dosing it?
What are you dosing it with? If you are talking about conditioner (the only additive I see mentioned in this thread) it should only be added with new water; while most say they do no harm if overdosed, there must be a limit before something may occur, not to mention there is no point in wasting it. And it won't do anything except what it is intended for, removing chlorine, chlorimine and perhaps detoxifying ammonia and/or nitrite, depending upon the brand.

If you are dosing the tank with something other than water conditioner, don't. Please reply to my question before we go further. I'm fairly certain I know exactly what occurred, but I want that info before continuing.

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:22 PM   #16
 
I dosed it with a substance to remove/lower nitrate nitrite and the ammonia. And I added a conditioner a clarifier dose after it fogged up

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Old 11-29-2009, 06:24 PM   #17
 
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I dosed it with a substance to remove/lower nitrate nitrite and the ammonia. And I added a conditioner a clarifier dose after it fogged up
What is this chemical called?
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:35 PM   #18
 
Bala shark is one of fish i found to be sensitive to chemical addtivres in tap such as chlorine as does hatchets.

i stongly doubt if there was any anaerobic activities in 2 month old tank.

I am to believe that tank has not completely cycled yet. Probably no ammonia is present either and maybe last leg of cycling process.

Probably exposure to high nitrite or ammonia or both may have cause this losses.

Again thi9s is an assumption that your tank have not cycled completely. During cycling i would not change medium nor wash them with tank water. Definitely no washing under running tap water.

Like I said cloudiness will not kill fish thus just try controlling nitrite (perhaps ammonia too) via small water changes ( maybe even twice a day until levels subside) to keep them low until tank is established.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:44 PM   #19
 
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Still don't know the specific chemicals, but I have to sign off shortly so will provide some advice from what there is here before I leave for the night.

I agree the tank was not cycled fully, and I believe cleaning the filter killed off the nitrification bacteria causing a mini-cycle of sorts.

Never use clarifiers to clear a cloudy tank. There are several causes for cloudiness, most are harmless to fish; only if it is toxic (ammonia or something) is it harmful. The chemicals "clear" the water by binding together particles so the filter can remove them. But the binding action also occurs in the fish's gills, which will certainly cause stress (I speak from experience, years ago I used one of these and learned my mistake) at the very least. Stress leads to health issues, increased susceptibility to disease and parasites... and the list goes on. Never, never use chemicals like these, please. I would do a 50% partial water change now to dilute them if you have used them today since the last pwc.

Cloudiness due to improper washing of gravel, carbon, etc is not harmful to the fish. Let it clear itself.

I also agree the fish deaths were due to the nitrification cycle, and the cloudiness is probably not related to this.

Monitor ammonia and nitrite, and do daily pwc to keep the levels low.

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Old 11-29-2009, 08:37 PM   #20
 
Ok the chemicals i used were tetra aquasafe to purify the tap water, and i dosed it with amquel plus to lower the nitrate, nitrite, and ammonia, and then i used the tetra water clarifier to clear the water. Sorry it took so long to get back, we got busy at work. oh and by the way byron your tanks are gorgeous.

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