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Old 10-24-2008, 09:33 AM   #21
 
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i was thinking the same thing. funny how no one else mentioned it. you have too many fish for a non-established tank. big fish=big waste. you did research but you didn't do the proper research. your tank isn't established by any means. it takes 4-6 weeks or longer for the benefical bacteria to grow to covert the tank's toxic waste from the fish/food. i hate to say it, but your fish are on route for a slow death possibly. you should have looked into a fishless cycle. i recently reset up my 55gal after a 3 year drought. i started it up on 8/31 and its still cycling. I know yours isn't close to cycling, unless you helped it out by using media from an existing tank.

as far a co2. co2 depends on your plants like the first response you got. getting this plant and that plant is the wrong approach. research its profile first. plants have needs just like the fish and if you don't meet them, they too will die off and you waste money in your investment. if you don't do the diy, you can use flourish excel. it is a carbon substitute. there is no better solution than a pressured tank though. but many have success with excel. lighting is part of the big three. lighting, co2, nutirents. Balance them right and you will have less algae/problems. 100w of light on a 50gal could be too low, just right or too much. again, this too depends on your plant choice.



I read this a few times to really understand what you are telling me and I understand where I went wrong but now I have fish and I want to keep them as healthy as possible so how should I go about this now?
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:58 AM   #22
 
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hi
have a read of this,it wil help you. :)
http://www.fishforum.com/freshwater-...ium-cycle-252/
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:37 AM   #23
 
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I asked from the beginning how long the tank had been set up and got no response.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:42 AM   #24
 
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oh yes i see you did,maybe they're away or something.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:49 PM   #25
 
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I asked from the beginning how long the tank had been set up and got no response.

Im so sorry! I do remember reading that and I did mean to answer you but I was just so over welmed with everything! I just forgot, I did not intend to ignor you. Well the answer would of been it wasnt running long anough (which I didnt know at that time) but I guess if I answered you then I wouldve recieved my answer huh? Is there anything that I can add to the water to back benifical bacteria grow?
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:20 PM   #26
 
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I have used both Nitromax and Bio Spira. I had great success w/ Bio Spira. It won't do the cycle for you but helps to speed it along. Nitromax is readily available and much cheaper than Bio Spira but Bio Spira is the better product. I did alot of research on the different products that claim to cycle the aquarium. Of those products that I actually did use Bio Spira is by far the superior product. The downside is that it's expensive. I used Bio Spira on the initial set up and I continue to use Nitromax at water changes.
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:39 PM   #27
 
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Also, if you can get your hands on some beneficial bacteria from another tank, that would be great. If someone you know has an extra filter on one of their tanks that they could move to yours, that would help. You could also get filter media from another fish tank and put it in your filter. If you don't know anyone else that keeps fish, the fish store might be able to give you some of their filter media that's been in their filters. You could also get some gravel from an established tank, put it into something like a pantyhose, and put that in your tank. Plants, decorations, rocks, driftwood - anything like this that's been in an established tank will be home to beneficial bacteria that will help cycle your tank.

Since your tank is going to be cycling with fish in it, you need to be absolutely on top of your water quality, especially since you don't exactly have the most hardy fish in the world in your tank. You need to get a good liquid test kit, like the API Freshwater Master Test Kit, and monitor your water parameters at least daily until the tank cycles. You will need to do water changes whenever the ammonia or nitrite become high enough to cause a problem, which with the fish you have in the tank, is pretty much whenever either of these parameters is detectable.
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:11 PM   #28
 
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As Batman says, keeping on top of water testing when cycling with fish is mandatory. I also cycled with fish and didn't lose any. I tested the water daily and as soon as any nitrite or ammonia registered I did a water change. It was a pain in the butt but well worth it as I didn't kill any fish!
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Old 10-26-2008, 10:07 PM   #29
 
Alright, I just wanted to let you all know that everything is ok and my water tests are perfect for as of right now. So ill let you now the 411 if evrything changes. Thanks for the help ; )
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:42 PM   #30
 
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Good to hear! Let us know how things go.
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