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post #1 of 25 Old 04-15-2012, 10:35 PM Thread Starter
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I am new here but thought I would get started.
New to this and made a few of the newbie mistakes.
I have three tanks my first is a ten gallon, my second still in the possess of setting up is a fifty five gallon. And my third I got today as an isolation tank.
Ick has hit my goldfish and I lost two to it but my third is in the isolation tank recovering after treating both tanks for it with ick guard and garlic.
My ten gallon tank is a little crouded but will be solved when the large tank is up and ready. All this fish are small and don't seem to bothered with each other and most will be in the larger tank in a few weeks.
I have one Goldfish in isolation, a platy which will remain in the ten gallon, two striped Raphael catfish, one African lemon yellow chiclid and five tiger barbs. I also have two suckers. I know alot for one tank but they will be fine in the larger tank when its set up.
It seems that the ick attacked only the goldfish and they were hit bad but it has ignored the other fish. I was wondering if there is a strand that only likes goldfish or is it just due to my mistake of having goldfish with barbs?
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post #2 of 25 Old 04-15-2012, 11:58 PM
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From what I undersatnd goldfish and tropical fish shoudnt be housed together because of care requirments. Goldfish I believe are messier and need cooler water than most tropical fish can stand. I believe you should move only your tropical fish to this larger tank and get some more tiger barbs because if they tend to be bullies if their isn't enough of them. Im not to sure but I think those catfish get very large.

Anyway welcome to the forum. We have this cool feature here that let's u click on the darken color text of the fish like this...> Goldfish < this will bring you to a page with lots of info on care and size and history. Very interesting stuff.

Im a newbie but that's my two cents but their are lots of people who I swear have written books on this stuff who can help you more than I.
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post #3 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 12:15 AM Thread Starter
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The goldfish is isolated and will remain so away from the others, he will stay until he weather gets better or dies. I hope he gets better. The tiger barbs I have are a happy group of five and seem to do well. They are not all the same size and have had no domince issues yet. I started out with one had six but one was really nippy so I gave him to a friend who has some tetras and he had a little attitude adjustment from them and seems to have befriended her chiclid. My remaining five have all calmed down and get along with there tank mates. I have a lemon chiclid and my platy seems to really buddied up with him. My two catfish one stays hidden most of the time but the new one seems to be more interested in exploring the tank. The chiclid is fearless but not to aggressive and seems content with exploring the entire tank and all its finer points. He is the only one other then the plecos that enter the volcano. He likes to play peekaboo from it.
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post #4 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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Only the tropical fish and cats will be in the larger tank.
The cats get to seven inches there a smaller type and the 55 gallon should due but I have room for more tanks if needed.

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post #5 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 12:35 AM
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Hi there Donnie and welcome! I'm sorry you've gotten off to a bad start with ich. It can be a tough thing to beat. If your goldfish has it then any other fish that was in the tank with it is at risk. Keep that in mind, and keep a close eye out for signs of it in any of the other fish.

Jester is right that it's generally not a good idea to keep goldfish and tropicals together. Most tropicals will either nip at the goldfish's fins or could become a meal for the goldfish. As double-tailed goldfish grow to around 10 inches and like to be in groups, the 55 gallon with another few double-tailed goldfish friends will be his best home. If the goldfish is a single-tail like a shubunkin or a comet, then you are going to need a bigger tank. Goldfish also live for around 10 years with proper care. If this is an investment you weren't prepared to make, you should return the goldfish to the store.

Firstly, I think you should read all the profiles for your fish. As jester pointed out, click on the shaded name of the fish to see our profiles (like tiger barb). They contain a lot of wonderful information. The only one we don't have is the lemon cichlid, but you can find that profile here: Lemon Cichlid (Neolamprologus leleupi) - Seriously Fish

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post #6 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 05:44 AM Thread Starter
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i am prepared for it. Woke up and the goldfish is still alive. Hope he continues to fight it.
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post #7 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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Goldfish is showing alot of spunk this morning. He is eating again and seems to be returning to himselve. Still alot of spots on his tail but tank has a good treatment in it and I have left the filter off during the treatment. I used ick guard and melafix along with garlic. Treated both tanks with them.
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post #8 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 11:40 AM
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Turning the filter off is never a good idea with goldfish. They produce a lot of ammonia and need to have a filter running at all times to prevent ammonia toxicity. The instructions say to remove the activated carbon as it removes the medication from the water, not to turn off the filter. Also while using products like this you need to keep tabs on your ammonia. Sometimes they can also kill the good bacteria.

Another interesting tidbit is to feed the fish food with garlic in it. I will put it in my home made gel food but some commercial foods like New Life Spectrum have garlic in them. It has a tendency to make the fish taste "bad" to parasites. Interestingly enough it will also work to a degree with humans. Eat a lot of garlic, and the ticks don't like the way you taste!

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post #9 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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he is a comet goldfish single tail.
Correction on type

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post #10 of 25 Old 04-16-2012, 05:17 PM
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Then a 55 gallon aquarium isn't going to be large enough. Ideally he should be in a pond as these fish are active swimmers and get large (around a foot long). They can be kept in 75 gallon or larger tanks, and should be kept with other goldfish as they can get skittish by themselves.

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