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post #1 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
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Having some issues with my betta tank

My crowntail, Spike, had passed away. He was bright/active the entire time, just suddenly kicked the bucket with no outward signs of issues. So I purchased a new betta, a double tail dubbed GoJo.

Now I'm suddenly having issues. This tank is supposed to be cycled. Yet everyday I'm being forced to do a 100% water change because I am getting a reading of 1ppm ammonia. My betta is likely slowly dying and I can't figure out wtf is happening!

I was thinking that maybe there was waste trapped inside my sand and when the sand was disturbed the ammonia was released? As par the idea, I did atleast 5 100% water changes/vacuums. I disturbed the sand as much as possible to make sure I am removing all waste possible. I couldn't find anymore waste when vacuuming on my last water change.

I scrubbed down the walls, rinsed decor in hot HOT water, scrubbed down the housing of my filter. I've rinsed my media in decholrinated water. Added more media incase that somehow whatever the betta was producing didn't have enough room in the original media.

I just have no idea what is going on/what more I can do.

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Tank has been running with no prior issues for 5 years
5.5 gallons
HOB filter rated for 10 gallons/baffled with a plastic water bottle
Marineland filter pad for sponge media
sand substrate
live plants: anacharis, duckweed/slavina
fake plants
gator head from wally world(was purchased 2 years ago)

I've been doing daily 100% water changes, treating with Prime every time. Yet I am getting a reading of 1ppm ammonia everyday. The only inhabitant is my double tail betta.

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post #2 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 03:13 PM
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When you scrubbed all the walls, decor, and filter media you probably got rid of the majority of your beneficial bacteria, so now your tank is having to cycle again. All I can recommend are huge daily water changes until you can ride this out. Plants are going to help, add more if your can.

Do you have a cycled tank that you can take some media from?
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post #3 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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My issue is, where is all this ammonia coming from?!
Even before my tank was cycled and was very new, 1 betta fish would produce .25 ammonia in that very same tank in 1 week.

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post #4 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 04:07 PM
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When are you testing the water.... right before you change it? Try testing it right away after the change or at the tap, it's possible it may be in the source water already.

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post #5 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 04:17 PM Thread Starter
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I've tested my tap 3 times. It always comes out to 0 ammonia. Unless the Prime has ammonia(unlikely).

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post #6 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 04:30 PM
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Obviously it's coming from somewhere, but with the plants and established media and whatnot, perhaps you could let it go and see if it drops. If you are using prime (which does create ammonia when used initially) then the ammonia is rendered harmless for up to 2 days. The assumption is that the ammonia gets oxidized by the cycle or used by the plants and is gone in that period. The ammonia is produced when the prime breaks the chlorine into it's components.

I don't know how much is released but it would depend on how much chlorine is in the water initially. I would wonder why it is happening now if it never happened before, maybe the water supply has changed levels of treatment.

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post #7 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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hm
possibly
but it's killing my betta but not my angels? My betta is all clampy and labored in breathing. My angels are perfectly happy.

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post #8 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 06:54 PM
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I guess I missed a part, I don't think it's the ammonia that is the problem if you are changing the water frequently and treating it with prime, the ammonia shouldn't be an issue in that case.

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post #9 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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But that's all that is abnormal in my betta tank. Everything else is testing as it normally does. PH between 7-7.5 Nitrites 0, Nitrates 5, water is still soft. I'm just a bit confused as to why the ammonia is spiking like this.

I'm only doing daily 100% because OF the ammonia. Otherwise I'd do my weekly 50%.

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post #10 of 14 Old 06-06-2013, 07:19 PM
does your tap water have ammonia in it? lol
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