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post #11 of 20 Old 02-14-2011, 12:37 PM
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Is he fresh water..... I have spent MUCH time on that question.
What I have come up with is.... He starts life in fresh water then moves to brackish, and sometimes ventures into salt, but mostly stays in brackish.
Some people keep them in fresh with fresh water salt, as I am at the moment, but I have read that although they will survive like this.... they will not thrive, or meet there 15 year life expectancey. This has me in a quandry, I love my fresh water setup, and fresh water plants, but want to do what is best for Pete. I think I will be OK for a while as I am because he is still a juvenile, but I may have to ditch the plants and switch to brackish in the future
Dwarf puffers, Carinotetraodon travancoricus, is an exclusively freshwater species from India. It lives in sluggish waters thick with vegetations. Though they can tolerate a slight amount of salt, it is not necessary and should be avoided. Your beautiful aquascape 9and it is lovely) will suit dwarf puffers admirably.

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post #12 of 20 Old 02-14-2011, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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I am pretty sure Pete is a green spoted puffer(Tetraodon Nigroviridis). That is what I looked up and got the brackish info about. Green Spotted Puffer Profile (TROPICAL FISH ARTICLES) I was at That Fish Place today and spoke to the girl there who does their brackish section.... she said that they even keep the small GSPs in brackish. This kinda bummed me out. because. I kinda like the way that tank turned out. She also said that they had NO plants for brackish water
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I am pretty sure Pete is a green spoted puffer(Tetraodon Nigroviridis). That is what I looked up and got the brackish info about. Green Spotted Puffer Profile (TROPICAL FISH ARTICLES) I was at That Fish Place today and spoke to the girl there who does their brackish section.... she said that they even keep the small GSPs in brackish. This kinda bummed me out. because. I kinda like the way that tank turned out. She also said that they had NO plants for brackish water
Another example of common name confusion, which is why I included the scientific name previously just in case.

You can get good reliable info on this species T. nigroviridis at Fishbase:
http://www.fishbase.org/summary/spec...ry.php?id=7763
and the Puffer group
The Puffer Forum • Tetraodon nigroviridis
and here [this is a highly reliable site]
Green Spotted Puffer (Tetraodon nigroviridis) - Seriously Fish

Re plants, if it is not too brackish Java Fern and Anubias work. Vallisneria might.

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post #14 of 20 Old 02-14-2011, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks again Byron
I will slowly add aquarium salt and change the plants..
I setup Pete's food tank tonight. It is currently stocked with ghost shrimp and small snails.... The freebees from petsmart. I have no idea what knid of snails they are.
I am not sure how cool it is to have it that close to his tank...... I may have to move it because I feel like I am teasing him.








We will see how this works
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I fear some of those plants will not last with salt. Unless of course it is not too high. I note that there is general agreement that as this fish matures it prefers freshwater. Anyway, good luck. That is a nice aquascape.

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Thanks... I am happy with the way it came out... thats why I am bummed that I will probably have to change the plants.
I look at tanks like yours and Drool. I am working on my 125 gal, but I am having a problem with BBA.
Have you posted on this somewhere???
I have done a few searches and basicly found out that it sucks to get rid of.
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That IS a really nice aquascape... shame about having to ditch the plants. I particularly like that driftwood on the right.

Personally, I've always read that green spotted puffers are full marine as adults and will sicken and die if kept in freshwater as they grow. There seems to be a consensus that small puffers can be kept in fresh and then gradually acclimated to increasingly brackish water as they grow, stopping when marine conditions are reached. The size scale I usually see for this is 2 inches and below- freshwater to low- brackish, 2-4 inches- medium brackish, and 4 inches or more- saltwater. Apparently they can only successfully breed in salt water (discovered by Florida State University, if I recall right), so it makes sense that this may be where they spend a lot of their time as adults. There's still plenty of old and outdated information about them of course, but more and more I am seeing things updated to recommend the transition from brackish to marine to keep them healthiest and happiest.

Good luck with Pete. He's a cute little bugger.

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Right now he is just under the 2 inch mark. Does that mean he will be ok for a while in fresh??? I am using fresh water salt right now. I would love to keep the tank the way it is for a while while I research brackish setups and the plant that go with them.
I of course do not want to stress the little guy just to keep the look of the tank.
Any thoughts about having his food tank right there.... He doesn't seem to look longingly out that part of the tank our anything lol
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aw i love pete i use to have many of those they killed all the other fish i had in my tank so i never got those fish again T_T

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Thanks... I am happy with the way it came out... thats why I am bummed that I will probably have to change the plants.
I look at tanks like yours and Drool. I am working on my 125 gal, but I am having a problem with BBA.
Have you posted on this somewhere???
I have done a few searches and basicly found out that it sucks to get rid of.
I have black brush algae (or red algae as it is often called) in my tanks, always. I try to keep it under control, and that means keeping the light down. I don't mind it on wood and rocks, it looks natural, but on plant leaves it will suffocate the leaf. It also appears more in some tanks than others, there are obviously subtle issues at work behind this, as Rhonda Wilson a planted tank author in TFH has frequently mentioned.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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