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Old 04-30-2012, 04:09 PM   #11
 
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this tank is supposed to be my dream tank and instead i am having headache after headache. :( since i started back with tanks after about 10 years i have had a 10 gallon, a 20 gallon, a 29 gallon, and a 30 gallon tank set up. i haven't had a problem with any of them. now i have this tank set up and it is just not what i want it to be.

the thought of having to keep my curtains closed all the time to keep my water clear makes me so sad.
Hang in there. There are people here who have been in the planted tank hobby longer then they might like to admit. They will certainly have more suggestions for you.

One thing that has worked for me in the "algae on plants" area is to have some floating plants. Pennywort is by far my favorite but I also like Water sprite. There is also duckweed, hornwort etc... These will help some in the direct light area. My lights are on a timer for 8 1/2 hours a day and I dose with Flourish once (sometime 2 times) a week.

As you know, I also clean my tank with huge water changes every 4-5 days. Usually 70% but I know it isn't neccessary. I just like to do it and have the fish smiling at me after.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #12
 
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I agree with what Geomancer has mentioned. Give the reduced duration a try as a first step. Bright ambient light in the room does impact this though, especially in summer when the day is longer and brighter.

Flourish Comprehensive Supplement is a better liquid fertilizer than the Nutrafin, as Flourish contains everything. The Nutrafin sticks are good for swords though, i had incredible growth from my large swords when i used them; can't find them anywhere lately. But the Flourish Comp is a better liquid, only once a week. The Excel I also am not partial too.

Once the water is back to normal, a 50% change every week is advisable.

Another thing we didn't ask, what is the GH of your tap water? The harder the water the more likely are algae issues so that has to be factored in too.

Byron.
i got flourish comprehensive in the mail today. my lfs only carries nutrafin products. i will start using the flourish after i do a few more large water changes.

my tap water is very soft. i don't remember the exact number because i tested it a while ago now. i think it took only a few drops to change, maybe 2 or 3. the pH of my tap water is 7.0.

i plan to try the excel for a little while. i have heard good things about it from other people. i would love to do pressurized co2 but i don't know if i can get the tanks refilled where i live. i am also thinking about this Sicce CO2 Life System 2 - For Aquariums up to 45 Gallons // Aquarium Supplies Canada - Pond Supplies Canada - Reptile Supplies Canada // Pets & Ponds i am not sure just yet. i have spent so much money on this tank in the past little while that i have to take a break on the spending for a bit. haha!

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Hang in there. There are people here who have been in the planted tank hobby longer then they might like to admit. They will certainly have more suggestions for you.

One thing that has worked for me in the "algae on plants" area is to have some floating plants. Pennywort is by far my favorite but I also like Water sprite. There is also duckweed, hornwort etc... These will help some in the direct light area. My lights are on a timer for 8 1/2 hours a day and I dose with Flourish once (sometime 2 times) a week.

As you know, I also clean my tank with huge water changes every 4-5 days. Usually 70% but I know it isn't neccessary. I just like to do it and have the fish smiling at me after.
luckily most of the algae on my plants had disappeared! that makes me happy! i know i wouldn't have the patience to do a large water change like that every 4-5 days! i get antsy enough waiting around to do a 40% change! today i actually drained the water out my french doors into the backyard! that was nice. i love my siphon but i hate that i have to have the water running in order to drain the water from the tank. today i drained it out without wasting water. :) i changed about 60% of the water today.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:42 PM   #13
 
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You might want to have a read of my 4-part series "A Basic Approach to the Natural Planted Aquarium" which is stickied at the head of the Aquarium Plants section of the forum. I suggest this because it will explain more about the "balance" that is so important. You mention adding CO2 which is fine, if that is the method you are wanting. CO2 is not necessary for a healthy lush planted tank. Adding CO2 means more light and more nutrients because you are setting up a higher level of balance. The article will explain this more.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #14
 
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luckily most of the algae on my plants had disappeared! that makes me happy! i know i wouldn't have the patience to do a large water change like that every 4-5 days! i get antsy enough waiting around to do a 40% change! today i actually drained the water out my french doors into the backyard! that was nice. i love my siphon but i hate that i have to have the water running in order to drain the water from the tank. today i drained it out without wasting water. :) i changed about 60% of the water today.

Oh, I would never call me Patient. ha ha I use 2 hoses, one drains the water into the drain (and I do not run the water while doing that. As long as the end is lower then the tank, you are good to go. I won't waste water that way either.

I keep the other hose clean and that one connects to my kitchen sink (with an adapter) and I am filling one tank while yacking on the computer, once that is full, I switch it to the other tank which by that time, has drained enough water out. It is relatively fast and easy. Best investment I made for my tank thus far was the second long hose. LOVE it. I use to do my water changes by bucket. NEVER again. That was so bad for my back.

Think about some floating plants. I think your fish will enjoy them as well. What is not to love about MORE plants, right? Oh yeah, that pesky thing about more money. ha ha I hear you for awhile there it was like every month I had a large credit card bill from my tanks. I have backed off some as of late as well. They are finally full the the top with plants. haha
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:56 PM   #15
 
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You might want to have a read of my 4-part series "A Basic Approach to the Natural Planted Aquarium" which is stickied at the head of the Aquarium Plants section of the forum. I suggest this because it will explain more about the "balance" that is so important. You mention adding CO2 which is fine, if that is the method you are wanting. CO2 is not necessary for a healthy lush planted tank. Adding CO2 means more light and more nutrients because you are setting up a higher level of balance. The article will explain this more.
i am not new to planted tanks. i understand that co2 means more nutrients and higher light. :) i am planning to make this tank more high tech than the other tanks that i have had.

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Oh, I would never call me Patient. ha ha I use 2 hoses, one drains the water into the drain (and I do not run the water while doing that. As long as the end is lower then the tank, you are good to go. I won't waste water that way either.

I keep the other hose clean and that one connects to my kitchen sink (with an adapter) and I am filling one tank while yacking on the computer, once that is full, I switch it to the other tank which by that time, has drained enough water out. It is relatively fast and easy. Best investment I made for my tank thus far was the second long hose. LOVE it. I use to do my water changes by bucket. NEVER again. That was so bad for my back.

Think about some floating plants. I think your fish will enjoy them as well. What is not to love about MORE plants, right? Oh yeah, that pesky thing about more money. ha ha I hear you for awhile there it was like every month I had a large credit card bill from my tanks. I have backed off some as of late as well. They are finally full the the top with plants. haha
i will think about floating plants. i generally don't like them since i find they make my tank look "messy". i know it isn't but i generally like my plants to be organized and having plants floating on the top of my tank is not organized. haha! (ocd...)
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:59 PM   #16
 
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I am right there with you kid. I had to fight with myself on most decisions but made them for the health of my fish. I chose Pennywort and I think you will like that choice as well. It is... neater looking. Must more so then some of the others. The fish of course, appreciate not being in the bright light. ha ha

Oh my, we have more in common then you think OCD. ;)
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:30 PM   #17
 
i do like pennywort. i like that i can plant it in the sand and it will grow up and over. i haven't seen it at my lfs lately. i will have to keep an eye out for it.

i do have plenty of places in my tank with shadows for the fish right now. i am also going to make a "mountain" with rock as soon as i can get a chance to get to the town where the specific rocks that i want are. i am planning to make lots of caves (since i am going to get cichlids and all!) and there will be lots of places for other fish too :) i am going to silicone it together and put it in the middle of my tank with the plants coming out from each side. i can't wait to get it all done.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:39 PM   #18
 
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Sounds like you are going to be a busy girl for awhile. Remember that dream of just sitting and watching your peaceful tank? Ha Ha I guess all good things come to those who wait.... and work their butts off to get it just so. I wonder how long it would take to send Pennywort from Wisconsin to Newfoundland? I am sure the cost wouldn't make it worth it. I would have enough to share though as it is doing very very well in my tank. I have not planted any, I just float it but it is really pretty and not... messy. :)
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:23 PM   #19
 
I am definitely going to be busy but it is all worth it in the end :)

I am not sure the plants would make the trip to me. Shipping here takes weeks! Haha! I will probably be able to find some if i keep looking. :)

I think it might soon be time for some more pictures of your tank... :)
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:31 PM   #20
 
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I could handle that. I will be moving a few things around yet. Now that Rainbow is gone and his ugly house removed. This one also is a few weeks ago. I removed a large bit of the Water Sprite from the top, and the Pennywort covers the bulk of the top now. The log is now gone too :(

Don't mind the reflection of dogforum and me in the background. ha ha
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