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Are Gouramis sociable?
Old 02-05-2014, 02:44 PM   #11
 
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To which two species are you referring?
I believe the zebra danios and DGs, Jaysee.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:52 PM   #12
 
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a dwarf gourami shouldnt have a problem with your danios but i definitely wouldnt put more than one in a 20 gal. they will play nice with your other fish but will more likely than not show aggression towards each other.
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:32 PM   #13
 
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Gourami can be really tricky fish, as they often 'change their minds'. One moment everything looks fine, and the next you have a dead fish. Unless you have the resources to give each fish it's own tank should something go awry, I wouldn't get more than one.

I had 3 Pearl (supposedly one of the most docile gourami, second to Honeys) youngsters in a 38 gallon, and the male was relentless in chasing them. I switched out males, and still had issues with him being constantly harassing them, even with tons of hiding places.

So I nixed the male. And then the females fought, and fought, and one eventually almost killed the other. I ended up just returning them both and sticking with schooling fish.

So yeah. DGs are notorious for being aggressive, and sure, some people have house multiples together. But I'd say the risk of them fighting is too high to take unless you have another tank one could go into.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:08 PM   #14
 
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Are Gouramis sociable?

I had 5 pearls in a 45 with no problems at all. They'd still be in there if I hadn't given the tank away. Now I have 6 in a 125. IMO and E they are a group oriented fish and do best that way. I had kept them as a pair and trio and found aggression from the males (tried swapping him out). They kept a very close eye on the female. Adding more females fixed it instantly. I had tried to add a second male in the 125 but had a problem with the new male being aggressive with the other gouramis. I would like to introduce another male to the group to see if it it happens again. This time I will be introducing a trio to see if that makes a difference (I know, 2 variables...), increasing the group to 9.

Fish are not machines though. While one can expect a fish to adhere to the species standards, it shouldn't be a surprise when it doesn't go as expected. There are a ton of variables to consider when determining why a fish does not follow with how they ought to be, some within our control and some beyond it.

There are no guarantees in fishkeeping, except that the fish will die. It's okay to take risks, as long as they are calculated risks. Some things have a higher probability than others - I'm alllllllllllll about trying things and think MORE people should. I think too many people are afraid of things not working and it impedes their growth. However, I still think multiple DGs in a tank that small does not carry favorable odds.
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:28 AM   #15
 
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Nice looking kitty, 'Jentralal'! Things that can help with pecking order issues is introducing fish to a tank at the same time. When that's not possible, providing hiding places makes a significant difference, especially when there are highly territorial fish involved.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:21 PM   #16
 
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Nice looking kitty, 'Jentralal'! Things that can help with pecking order issues is introducing fish to a tank at the same time. When that's not possible, providing hiding places makes a significant difference, especially when there are highly territorial fish involved.
I understand how pecking order works ..perhaps more then most as an African cichlid keeper...however with DGs you aren't going to see much hierarchy established. Its just a hateful species. They are just fine with many other species but not their own. Yes they are fine with the danios.. but I would not in 20g ever recommend more then one DG (male or female or any mix of them) .

For the OP.. Is it a 20 long? The zebra danios are hyper fish that love length to swim...I wouldn't recommend zebra danios for a 20g high.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:30 PM   #17
 
Thanks Agent13. It's a 20-high. It does seem a bit short for the more vigorous Zebra Danio swimmers. They were recommended for being a hardy and easy to care-for "starter fish." We originally wanted Cherry Barbs. Oh well... live and learn.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:31 PM   #18
 
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I agree. though small, zebra danios are very active which means they should have more space to swim. I would not keep them in a 20 high either.


Cherry barbs would have been a much better choice. You can still get them for the tank.

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Old 02-06-2014, 01:40 PM   #19
 
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Dwarf gouramis somehow have a reputation as good community fish, but in my experience they are among the most aggressive of gouramis. Best for community in my opinion and experience are pearl gouramis, but no garuantee of course. Individual personality will decide who gets along and who fights. A 20 gall might be a bit small for pearl gourami as they can grow quite large.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:48 PM   #20
 
Possibly. One perished, and I'm down to four. I was planning to replenish with two, thinking that they would be happier as a complete school. I was also thinking that as I introduce new species it would be better for the newcomers if the Danios weren't stressed in any way.

Maybe I'll cap the Danios at four and Cherry Barbs instead. Thoughts?
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