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post #11 of 23 Old 03-13-2011, 07:35 PM
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Aqueon Quietflow has always worked for me

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post #12 of 23 Old 03-13-2011, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
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Aqueon Quietflow has always worked for me
I did some more research on the Aqua Clear Filter by Hagen...I think I might try it out. Its over my budget, but has rave reviews!!! And I like that it has the option of using my fluval media filter in it.

Thanks for the suggestion though! I will keep it in mind if the Aqua Clear becomes too unbudget friendly come payday.


Thanks to both of you for helping!! It is greatly appreciated! I think I am on the right track to a clear tank!!!

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Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
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post #13 of 23 Old 03-13-2011, 10:12 PM
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I have AquaClear HOB filters on both of my tanks. I have been really happy with their performance but just to give one word of advice... they can be a bit noisy if one little thing happens to throw them off. I guess I would say they are finicky when it comes to that... maybe all filters are like that and I don't realize it because AquaClear are the only ones I've ever had... but if there are bits of plants stuck to the intake, it'll get noisy... I have had to take them apart more than a few times to rinse the impeller... or if the lid isn't lined up JUST right... or if you don't have it sitting just right it will rattle a bit against the glass... I have heard of many people complaining that they are obnoxiously noisy, but they really are quite silent if all of those things I listed are taken care of.

that being said... I'm switching to a canister filter on my big tank as soon as I can afford it, because I have heard canisters are better for planted aquariums.
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post #14 of 23 Old 03-13-2011, 10:23 PM
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i am not familiar with that filter but is there a way to get a water polishing pad to fit in your filter.. may help clear up the cloudyness
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post #15 of 23 Old 03-13-2011, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
@iamgrey... yeah, noise isnt an issue for me, the tank it would be on is in the living room and the hubby is the one who would have to deal with the noise issue, and as loud as he has the tv I dont think he would notice. My marineland is pretty loud itself though.
Glad to hear its a good option.
I have had tons of issues with my marineland...the biowheel wont turn half the time...it takes 10 mins of fiddling with the filter media to get it in the perfect spot to allow just enough water to pass by just right to spin the bio wheel... and I have to take it apart every couple of weeks to clean the propeller thing and stuff, which I hear is what you have to do with the aquaclear, and thats not a big deal for me so it should work out nicely!
Thanks for the input!!!

@wannalearn... not sure, but i am sure I could... I am just going to upgrade filters...the marineland is only 150 gph anyways, which is pretty low for a 29 gal (as I found out here on my beloved TFK). And the Aqua Clear is like 200 gph (as I want the AquaClear 200/50...its for up to 50 gallon tanks).
Thanks for the input!!!

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post #16 of 23 Old 03-19-2011, 06:26 PM
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I have gone from the original top fin filter that came with the tank to a canister filter to a aqua clear 50 and I still have cloudy water. When I switched the first filter, I was told to run the bio wheel for 10 days and add good bacteria, this kept nitrites at 0 but did nothing for the cloudy water. Then I was told to add pro clear, but that didn't work either. Today I did a 50/50 water change, changed filters, took everything out to wash it. As of right now the tank is still cloudy and I haven't put anything back in yet. Help-- I can't see my fish
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post #17 of 23 Old 03-19-2011, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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I have gone from the original top fin filter that came with the tank to a canister filter to a aqua clear 50 and I still have cloudy water. When I switched the first filter, I was told to run the bio wheel for 10 days and add good bacteria, this kept nitrites at 0 but did nothing for the cloudy water. Then I was told to add pro clear, but that didn't work either. Today I did a 50/50 water change, changed filters, took everything out to wash it. As of right now the tank is still cloudy and I haven't put anything back in yet. Help-- I can't see my fish
Have you tried a phosphate remover?
I have noticed that I have to always use it in my take bc with the low flow they build up more in my tank (although not the main issue for cloudiness in my tank right now).

Okay...can you answer these for me...
1- What size tank?
2- Live plants? (helps with extra filtration...although with a bad filter, makes no difference)
3- What filter and all media are you CURRENTLY using? (and do you know the specs on it, like how many gph it filters?)
4- What are your water parameters? (at least the ammonia, nitrate, nitrite)
5- Is it cycled? How long has it been up and running?
6- How many and what kind of fish are in the tank?
7- What is your lighting schedule?
8- What is your feeding schedule?
9- What all chemical additives have you put in the tank in the last two weeks?
10- Do you have anything for extra oxygen in the tank for the fish, like a bubbler? (I ask bc when water gets super cloudy I always am concerned for the oxygen level in the tank.)

Here are the ideas I have that could be the issue without first knowing the answers to all the questions I asked...
1- Phosphates too high
2- Overcrowded (too many fishies)
3- Overfeeding
4- Algae bloom
5- bacteria bloom
6- poor filtration
7- uncycled
8- too much access debris
9- water changes of small and frequent havent been kept up with (not saying thats the case, just another reason for cloudy water).
10- Forgot to wash substrate (if newer tank)
11- When switching filters, it could have been done wrong and it upset the cycle causing the tank to go into a re-cycle or mini-cycle each time the filter/media was changed, contributing to cloudy water. (However, i doubt you changed your filter after only a few days or a week or so, and I assume you ran the old and new at the same time to allow the good bacteria growth, or at the very least put the old cartridge in the new filter with the built up good bacteria.)

And I am sure I and other members can add to the list of what can make a tank cloudy...and it could be a combination of a couple of them....as mine started as an algae bloom and high phosphates...now its just purely a crappy filter not doing its job effectly and all I can do to help combat it until I can get the new filter is water changes and phosphate remover...I am sure having as many fish as I do doesnt help either...plan on getting rid of the rasboras as soon as my friend can come get them.

Anyways...hope this helps, and I will contribute as many thoughts as I can when you respond. Good Luck.

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Tank 1: (29 gal planted) empty
Tank 2: (15 gal) empty
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post #18 of 23 Old 03-19-2011, 07:24 PM Thread Starter
And welcome to TFK!!! Glad to have you with us!

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post #19 of 23 Old 03-21-2011, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
So...I got my new filter today... AquaClear 50 (for my 29 gallon tank). Originally I was going to have it running with my current Marineland Penguin 150 Biowheel for a few weeks to make sure not to kill off any beneficial bacteria...but then I got to thinking...why remove the biowheel at all? Why not run both filters for as long as I can?? Especially since down the road I plan on two big ol goldfish for that tank (or dwarf cichlids)???

And this AquaClear must be good, it was almost twice the price of my Marineland!!!

So, if no one objects, I plan on running both of these filters on the same tank indefinately.

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post #20 of 23 Old 03-22-2011, 08:53 AM
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i don't think mondo grass is a true aquatic plant

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