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Future 75g set-up, opinions on stocking
Old 05-16-2008, 01:32 PM   #1
 
Future 75g set-up, opinions on stocking

Hey everyone. I'm in the early planning stages for a 75 gallon freshwater. I plan to mimic my saltwater themed 10 gallon setup I currently have. Only with this one I'll really be able to have some nice schools going.
Here is my plan for the community and I wanted to get people's thoughts.

For the schools that will inhabit most of the mid to upper levels, I had 5 species in mind:

13-Harlequin Rasboras
9- Glowlight Tetras
9- Black Neon Tetras
7- Pristella Tetras
3- Bala Sharks

For the bottom, I have planned:

3- Yo Yo Loaches
1-Red Tail Shark
1- Regular cray fish

I think when it's all set and done, it could make for a beautiful display with all the groups swimming together.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:19 PM   #2
 
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Bala sharks get pretty large and although they aren't known for being serious-business predators, I wouldn't be surprised if your smaller tetras and rasboras started going missing as the balas get bigger.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:13 PM   #3
 
If you have some decent income to spend on this tank, I'd suggest dumping the Balas, and getting Discus instead. I've seen several tanks mixing them with the small schooling fish that look really great. They also add a lot more personality to the tank, because unlike the little tetras and rasboras they will swim up to the glass and watch you while you watch them. My favorite LFS had a beautiful group of discus the other day that they were selling at 3 for $72 and I nearly ditched my planned Lake Malawi tank in favor of a discus-centric tank.

Also if you're liking the schooling idea, a Cory catfish shoal for the bottom adds a lot of personality as well.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:08 PM   #4
 
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Neon, ditch the crayfish and bala sharks from your list. Both can eat your other fish, sorry. Balas especially can outgrow your tank. Get 5-6 yoyo loaches. You have plenty other loach species to choose.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:36 PM   #5
 
Which crayfish were you looking at? there are some that are harmless to fish. Some of the Australian Yabbies, despite their large size are quite docile. I wouldn't necessarily suggest you get the yabs, but to let you know there are 'dads out there that can be placed in a community setting.

I do agree with nixing the Bala's. They do get large and will eat smaller fish. I alos think that they are a little more sensitive to poor aquarium management as well as water conditions.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:37 PM   #6
 
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Which crayfish were you looking at? there are some that are harmless to fish. Some of the Australian Yabbies, despite their large size are quite docile. I wouldn't necessarily suggest you get the yabs, but to let you know there are 'dads out there that can be placed in a community setting.

I do agree with nixing the Bala's. They do get large and will eat smaller fish. I alos think that they are a little more sensitive to poor aquarium management as well as water conditions.

Since I posted this, reading the responses and talking to others, I have nixed the Bala's and in stead will go with 3 Tiger Barbs. Most have suggested for Bala's to be pretty much by themselves in a 100 gallon tank or more as they will get very large. So I decided to go with the Tiger Barbs.

As for the Crayfish, I'm looking at the generic regular "Red" crayfish (it looks brownish/grey) such as this: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...72&pcatid=1872

Everything I've read and discussed with people says they are peaceful and keep to themselves, and would only be a threat to smaller, weaker slow fish (Such as the neon tetra) . All the schooling fish I have listed to get are little bigger, all being about 2 inches, with the barbs getting to 3, and inhabiting the mid to upper levels away form the bottom.

They are also pretty fast and should have no trouble getting away it should it get aggressive. I also have plenty of cracks, crevaces and hide aways planned for all. But as I said, everything indicates that the crayfish would be peaceful.

Should it become a problem, I've thought abut removing it and putting in 2-3 ghost shrimp, but I'm fearful that the Red Tailed shark will go after them when it gets bigger. Would that happen or do they tend to leave inverts alone? I have a Ghost shrimp right now in my 10 gallon with a yo yo loach and 7 Glow lights and everyone gets along fine.
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Old 05-29-2008, 02:08 AM   #7
 
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You need to get 6+ tiger barbs. I had five and the dominant male beat the stuffing out of everyone else, kept them cowering in corners, and quickly outgrew them, worsening the problem. I added a sixth fish and presto! Problem completly solved. There were still a few battles for dominance, but the group now hangs together. This will also help reduce aggression toward the other fish in the tank. In a tank that size, I think you could get away with the extra barbs.

Keep in mind that the rasboras and tetras you've chosen are much more docile than the tiger barbs and might become victims even if you've got a nice sized group of barbs. Keep an eye out for the barbs pestering other fish.
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Old 05-29-2008, 02:28 AM   #8
 
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Funny I have only four tiger barbs at the moment and the other three grew quickly that they all nip each other without one bullied constantly. But then they're the only middle dwellers in my tank with tiger loaches and modestas.
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