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Old 05-05-2012, 12:32 PM   #1
 
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The fugal restock.

Alright so long story short, my mom saw this fluval 12 gallon I believe it is, and she really liked it, but the problem is, she bought fish decorations all on the same day! (I was not aware of this) I came home to see a fluval 12 gallon most likely over stocked with live bearers and that kinda murky tap water look, so I immediately put the appropriate chemicals in like the dechlorinizer and bio and organic stuff, I measured what the bottles recommended, i even put al little bit of ick just in case, but what we all woke up to was all dead fish except two female swords, so I did a 80 percent water change, now about two months later, the tanks water is ridiculously clean, and the fish are now well fed and healthy :) but I'm planning on restocking it... And I'm not really sure what should be added on to these survivors...

I was thinking something like this

2 female swords (that were already there)

-1 male sword
-3 Cory's for bottom
- some type of algae eater? Shrimp perhaps? Jw
Some other open water fish? Like white cloud, guppies, danios, dwarf rainbows?

Or if anything suggest a whole new stock :) I'm open to ideas

Ps remember the two female swords :)

Thanks for all help!!!
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:57 PM   #2
 
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I'd try to rehome the swords. They are large and active, and need 30 inches of swimming room at least. I really wouldn't put anything else in with them in that tank, they can also be bullies to other fish, especially in such a small group.
What's your water hardness and pH?
If you rehome the fish you have quite a few options, depending on your water parameters. Cories, kuhli loaches, celestial pearl danios, ember tetra, shrimp, rasbora, male guppies.. Again, depends on the parameters, as some of these fish are soft water and some are more medium hard water.
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Old 05-06-2012, 12:06 PM   #3
 
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I agree, the swordtails will not be healthy in so small a space. Once they are out, there are many small "dwarf" type fish that would make a nice display, and water parameters will help you decide which.

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Old 05-08-2012, 05:49 PM   #4
 
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well my temp is around 78 degrees Fahrenheit

ph: about 7

hardness also about 7

is anything to work with?
but im actually thinking of redecorating, like completely, and my swords have gone to a pond for the summer so they're out of the way for now..

im gonna change gravel and decor cause its becoming an eye sore :$
and jw im thinking of doing an amazon kinda theme, (no live plants) and i was wondering if i could put some like leaves for the bottom? plastic or something..

and i was thinking something like this stock wise>>

- 6 small schooling fish (embers,rasboras,dwarf rainbow,danios) ?
- 3 kuhili loaches
- perhaps killis,badis or southamerican dwarf cichlids?
-4 otos

is that a decent idea?
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Old 05-08-2012, 07:48 PM   #5
 
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well my temp is around 78 degrees Fahrenheit

ph: about 7

hardness also about 7

is anything to work with?
but im actually thinking of redecorating, like completely, and my swords have gone to a pond for the summer so they're out of the way for now..

im gonna change gravel and decor cause its becoming an eye sore :$
and jw im thinking of doing an amazon kinda theme, (no live plants) and i was wondering if i could put some like leaves for the bottom? plastic or something..

and i was thinking something like this stock wise>>

- 6 small schooling fish (embers,rasboras,dwarf rainbow,danios) ?
- 3 kuhili loaches
- perhaps killis,badis or southamerican dwarf cichlids?
-4 otos

is that a decent idea?
Is the hardness 7 dGH or ppm? I'm assuming degrees, which is soft. Many of the dwarf species in Cyprinidae (some you've mentioned) and the Ember Tetra will be fine (not all together necessarily). No cichlid will work in this small a tank. I would not bother with otos as they will add unnecessary bioload in a small space. The pygmy, dwarf or salt&pepper species of cory would be nice, a group of 8-9 of whichever species. I would up the species from 6 to 8 or 9. These dwarf species always do better in larger numbers.

That's the fish generally. Some of those I would never have in a plantless tank. The habitat information in our profile of each will explain why.

Substrate for all these should be sand, Quikrete play sand is ideal as it replicates the sand in many Amazonian streams. Leaf litter is fine, a nice authentic touch. Use dried leaves like oak and beech, you can collect these (in the autumn usually), as long as they are completely dry (as when they have fallen from the tree and all juices are gone). You can also buy them in some fish stores or online, almond leaves are widely used.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:59 PM   #6
 
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Alright, well I'd consider plants, it's just that the tank currently has one of those led lights that come with the fluval, and im not to sure how to change it :$

But I'd try to do leaf litter,driftwood and I guess sand.

Alright so how's this..?

6 dwarf rainbows, cause I like theyre fast pace and colors :D
6 cories, (dwarf) are pandas dwarves?
And something else? Centerpiece type thing... Gouramis? Perhaps

And jw what about if I stocked it with a invertebrate/oddities type tank?

Like ..

Colony of cherry shrimp
2 rock shrimp
And a school of plates (just as an example) maybe something cooler..?
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:21 PM   #7
 
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Do you mean neon dwarf rainbows, Melanotaenia praecox?
Great, adaptable tiny fish. I'd get a group of at least 7-8 though, rainbowfish are much more colorful in bigger groups, they display to each other and smaller ones are more secure.
I wouldn't bother with them in an unplanted tank, especially since you are a beginner. The fluvals LEDs will cover you for any plant listed as "low" light, it gives you lots of options. The reason I suggest to heavily plant the tank is that most rainbows are sensitive to ammonia and nitrates, which a planted tank will control very well for you.
Personally I'd knock out the center piece fish. Though if you really want one, I'd get only one school, make it a bit larger, maybe 9 or 10. Then maybe look into Scarlett badis, (Dario Dario). I know they are small, peaceful and good for your water. You could probably fit in 3-4.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:04 AM   #8
 
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Agree, and I would increase the corys to 8-9, the dwarf species are much better in larger groups.

One caution on the Scarlet Badis, they may be difficult to feed. I have these, they go for frozen bloodworms but no dry/prepared foods. I suspect mine are largely existing on natural microscopic critters in the tank. Another value to planted tanks, you will have natural food sources for the fish.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #9
 
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I would not add too many fishes at once after removing substrate and replacing with new,and would try and leave a little mulm in the bottom of the tank when I placed new substrtae in.
Would try and run filter in another tank if possible while you re-do the tank so as not to lose too much of bacteria and thus create new tank condition's where ammonia and nitrites will need to be carefully monitored.
Course if you threw a bunch of live floating plant's in the tank like ..Pennywort,frogbit,water sprite,you might then be able to add a few small fish straight away without creating too much stress from possible ammonia/nitrite spike .
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:45 PM   #10
 
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Kk wait so is my tank considered low lighting? Is this any possibility for plants? Cause at one point this orange algae/fungi was growing, Idk if that means I have decent lighting or something but I'm just curious, and I was planning on decorating and adding few weeks later, and I was thinking a live bearers tank only, like endlers, platies, guppies, and perhaps balloon mollies, I'm not familiar ratios with live bearers so Id like too know my limits please :) and maybe even a cool beta to add in that combo?
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