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post #11 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 09:44 PM
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Not sure about the scratching post. But my fish LOVE frozen bloodworms. Freeze dried, well, not so much. But I'm experimenting and seeing how they like live whiteworms. Maybe if I had a feeder cone it would work better... If you're only going to use bloodworms, there's a way to culture them, but it won't work in the winter and you risk getting eaten alive by the mosquitoes who lay the eggs! You could try whiteworms for the little fish you have, they're pretty easy to keep a culture going, and make lots of baby worms FAST, once the culture gets going. Good luck!
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post #12 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 10:14 PM
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OK, so the freeze dried ones swell up after they eat them? Why wouldn't they put that on the container? Mine doesn't say anything about that. How long to soak?
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post #13 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 10:30 PM
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By request of Angel079, I'm going to post about how to culture live whiteworms.

There are several steps.

Step 1: Buy a culture. You can get one from a friend who has an existing culture, or buy it online. None of my LFS have whiteworms, but maybe yours does.

Step 2: Put the worms where you want them. You should have peat or something similar, pretty much any dirt will work as long as it doesn't have any chemicals in it and is moist to damp, but NOT wet. Put the soil in a container, I use a ziploc container, but the walls don't seem to be high enough. It's easiest to harvest the worms from the walls.Once you have put the worms in, spritz the culture with water until it is considerably moist. Have a lid. Poke holes in the lid, and make sure the lid is tight-fitting. Just don't make the holes too big, or worms will crawl out and/or mites will come in and invade the culture, and you will have to salvage some worms and start a new culture.

Step 3: Feed the culture. Bread soaked in milk is excellent food, and when the culture is at the "harvesting stage", you can feed them a little meat, so the fish get protein. Just don't overfeed. In the first few weeks, the culture will not eat all of the food, and it will become moldy. Remove it after about 5 days, and replace it.

Step 4: Harvesting stage. When the worms finish the bread before it becomes moldy, your culture is at the harvesting stage. Your culture should be swarming with worms all over the bread now. Now, add some more bread, with meat underneath. I used turkey breast, deli sliced, and I shredded it with my hands. You don't need much. You can now harvest some worms, but leave the majority. This step is usually about 5-6 weeks into caring for your culture.

Step 5: Daily harvesting. This is an aged culture. You can now give cultures to friends, or sell cultures online, with a portion of the worms from your culture. Don't actually harvest daily, harvest about once every 3 days. Eventually you can harvest every 2 days, but don't do that until your culture is well aged.
Consider buying a feeder cone for your fish. Worms can only poke out of the slots, waving in the water until your fish snatch them up! Discus especially love these.

Your culture is now perfectly aged! You can now regularly harvest and feed to fish. You can also start new cultures for yourself, and feed huge numbers of small fish, which is good if you're a breeder. Good luck to all who try this!
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How big do they get?
What fish have you offered these to so far that'll eat them?

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post #15 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 11:02 PM
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My black ghost knife fish eat them, and I bet my kissing gouramis would, they're scared of my hand, but they try to get the freeze dried bloodworms.

The worms get to be about 1 cm, more or less.
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post #16 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 11:12 PM
How much do you feed your fish? btw I've always just dropped a frozen cube in and let them go at it. I've only done it before water changes because most of it ends up on the gravel. I wait a few hours then vaccuum it up. My danios have a hard time eating the whole bits so I should dice them.

So I have about 4 leopard danios and 6 black skirt tetras and three yo yo loaches. Feeding quantity recommendations? Half a cube?

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post #17 of 21 Old 01-06-2010, 11:17 PM
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Not sure. My 2 black ghost knife fish eat about 2 cubes, but I normally feed them 1. Since your fish are little, I would say 1/2 to 1 cube should be good. The BGKs also look around in the gravel at night for any food that escaped them the first time around. With the pleco and kissing gouramis, there's no food to vacuum up! (and my tank is way too small for these fish - I'm giving them to a LFS soon, hopefully.)

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post #18 of 21 Old 01-07-2010, 09:37 AM Thread Starter
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So I found out that bloodworms drive my tetras and danios insane, most of the others didnt really care but i think the gauramis didnt go for them cause they looked very close to their poo strands they are forever dropping.
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post #19 of 21 Old 01-07-2010, 09:39 AM
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How much do you feed your fish? btw I've always just dropped a frozen cube in and let them go at it. I've only done it before water changes because most of it ends up on the gravel. I wait a few hours then vaccuum it up. My danios have a hard time eating the whole bits so I should dice them.

So I have about 4 leopard danios and 6 black skirt tetras and three yo yo loaches. Feeding quantity recommendations? Half a cube?
Pls take a lil 1/4 measuring cup or something, add tank water to it and thaw it out first, then give it in the tank. Fish naturally are not used to frozen or fast foods, that's very unnatural and not good to pick it frozen for their lil systems

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post #20 of 21 Old 01-08-2010, 10:57 PM
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Pls take a lil 1/4 measuring cup or something, add tank water to it and thaw it out first, then give it in the tank. Fish naturally are not used to frozen or fast foods, that's very unnatural and not good to pick it frozen for their lil systems
Good idea, will do.

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