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post #21 of 39 Old 05-01-2013, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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With those fish you could easily have a lot of plants in the tank instead of going for a refugium. Those are really only used when the fish don't cooperate well with plants (like goldfish and most cichlids) or you want immersed growth.
I kinda want it just for moss growth, i dont like moss in my display
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Any particular reason you want moss growth? It doesn't grow that fast and isn't a great nutrient sink. It's great for shrimps, tho.

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Any particular reason you want moss growth? It doesn't grow that fast and isn't a great nutrient sink. It's great for shrimps, tho.
I heard it helps with nitrite or nitrate or something
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I heard it helps with nitrite or nitrate or something
Duckweed is good for nitrates.

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straight from the tap, shaken up a bit,
Hardness 25
chlorine 0.5
Alkalinity 0
Ph 6.2

Dumb question maybe, but is that hardness in ppm or degrees hardness?
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Dumb question maybe, but is that hardness in ppm or degrees hardness?
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Welcome to the softwater club! That explains the acidity.
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Yeah that's super soft! Like less then 2 DGH.

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I heard it helps with nitrite or nitrate or something
Not as much as floating plants or even plants in the tank will. Plants consume ammonia before it can become nitrate thus lowering the overall total nitrate in the tank. But in order to have any real effect you need fast-growing plants as they suck up the ammonia fastest. Floating plants and fast-growing stem plants are best for this. Slow-growing plants like moss, anubias, and java fern are only marginally good at reducing nitrates.

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post #30 of 39 Old 05-01-2013, 04:07 PM
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Others have talked about nitrates and plants, so I'll just get to the fish part of your question.

Trying to further clarify some things for myself first though, sorry.

When you add the tap water the saltwater fish die? You don't have any freshwater fish at the moment do you?

If that's the case I would just use your tap water to set up the tank. The fish you mentioned will love it, aside from the rainbow and that needs a bigger tank than you have regardless. Stick with softwater, acid loving fish and you will only need to harden your water a little for the plants. No need to worry about changing KH or PH.

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