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Old 10-15-2012, 07:28 AM   #11
 
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[quote=madyotto;1275716]most aquatic gravel has calcium in it[/quote

Unless you go with specialty substrates for cichlid's, which often are partially comprised of aragonite,crushed coral, aquarium substrates most often are inert.(no calcium)
Tapwater often contain's calcium (enough ) unless you have very soft water.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:35 AM   #12
 
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Thanks for the heads up on that soil, will any of the lfs PETSMART or PETCO have peat moss?
Might google .."Diana Walstad's method" or google...miracle grow organic potting soil in planted aquarium's.
Miracle grow Organic potting soil is used by many with planted tank's (myself included).
It does contain peat.(other ingredient's to benefit plant's)
The Miracle grow potting MIX is different than the miracle grow potting SOIL.(the MGO potting soil work's well)
If you choose to use another form of peat, you want pure spaghum peat moss with no pearlite,laterite.(lawn and garden store,walmart)
If you are also going to use flourite (iron enriched clay) .you won't need the red clay you mention.

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Old 10-19-2012, 09:44 AM   #13
 
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I put in miracle gro organic choice, then some mexican red clay and gravel on top. I forgot to take out the wood chips from the soil now I have a bunch of tannins. If I do WC's often it should be crystal clear soon right?

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I have another question. I have a t5 fixture with 2 bulbs and currently I have 2x 5000k pink bulbs. It's time to change bulbs and if I get 2x 10,000k bulbs will it be too much? Will they add together to 20,000k? I have to get 2x 5000x? Would 2x 6500k work?
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:52 PM   #14
 
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I put in miracle gro organic choice, then some mexican red clay and gravel on top. I forgot to take out the wood chips from the soil now I have a bunch of tannins. If I do WC's often it should be crystal clear soon right?

http://i47.tinypic.com/oj43ye.jpg

I have another question. I have a t5 fixture with 2 bulbs and currently I have 2x 5000k pink bulbs. It's time to change bulbs and if I get 2x 10,000k bulbs will it be too much? Will they add together to 20,000k? I have to get 2x 5000x? Would 2x 6500k work?
2X 6500 K will be fine.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:24 PM   #15
 
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Might google .."Diana Walstad's method" or google...miracle grow organic potting soil in planted aquarium's.
Miracle grow Organic potting soil is used by many with planted tank's (myself included).
It does contain peat.(other ingredient's to benefit plant's)
The Miracle grow potting MIX is different than the miracle grow potting SOIL.(the MGO potting soil work's well)
If you choose to use another form of peat, you want pure spaghum peat moss with no pearlite,laterite.(lawn and garden store,walmart)
If you are also going to use flourite (iron enriched clay) .you won't need the red clay you mention.

Interesting.

I use canadian sphagum peat moss from building supply stores. a 1'x1'x3' cube is $11 or so. No ferts added.

1" of that with 1" of play sand on top and

1" of pro choice select red. (which is a baked clay used for baseball infields). I did have to contact the factory and the they replied with a local supplier which ordered a pallet. I got 4 50 pound bags for $7-8 per bag $32 total.

factory link: Pro's Choice Products

So for $20 you get enough for several large aquariums. Anything left over can be used in the garden/flow bed whatever.

I put a layer the wet that layer (not so much water things start floating) then level and clean and add the next layer.

After that and before filling the tank I plant the plants then fill the tank by pouring water over a dish.

I have found that results in an almost totally clear tank right from the start. But even if you are not that careful and the tank is cloudy, it clears in a day or two as long as you don't use a filter or circulate the water.


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Old 10-23-2012, 03:10 PM   #16
 
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Interesting.

I use canadian sphagum peat moss from building supply stores. a 1'x1'x3' cube is $11 or so. No ferts added.

1" of that with 1" of play sand on top and

1" of pro choice select red. (which is a baked clay used for baseball infields). I did have to contact the factory and the they replied with a local supplier which ordered a pallet. I got 4 50 pound bags for $7-8 per bag $32 total.

factory link: Pro's Choice Products

So for $20 you get enough for several large aquariums. Anything left over can be used in the garden/flow bed whatever.

I put a layer the wet that layer (not so much water things start floating) then level and clean and add the next layer.

After that and before filling the tank I plant the plants then fill the tank by pouring water over a dish.

I have found that results in an almost totally clear tank right from the start. But even if you are not that careful and the tank is cloudy, it clears in a day or two as long as you don't use a filter or circulate the water.


my .02
That sounds pretty cool :D


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Going to start planting soon, Looking for a good place to get Dwarf Hairgrass in NY
Also buying a canister filter anyone know any good brands they can recommend?

Also, Would somebody explain why 2x 6700k will work? I'm a bit confused on that. I thought over 10,000k would be too much
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