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Fluval Accent Pump Water Level Dropping
Old 02-20-2014, 11:23 PM   #41
 
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Mazingerz, I just realized there are THREE different U4 cartridges:

Poly/Carbon which is exactly like the Accent's:

http://usa.hagen.com/Aquatic/Media-I.../Internal/A492

Foam, which is similar to the one from the 06 canister I'm considering trying:

http://usa.hagen.com/Aquatic/Media-I.../Internal/A488

and Poly/"Clearmax".....

http://usa.hagen.com/Aquatic/Replacement-Parts/A483

I'm curious, which one are you using?

Hi, I am using the "POLY/CARBON". As you said, it is really similar to the one made for the Accent.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:30 PM   #42
 
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Mazingerz (and everyone else :) ) I've looked at the U4 pads, they are really not very different from the Accent pads (material wise) so I'm not surprised they don't make much difference.

The sponge I'm referring to is for the Fluval 06 series canister filters. It's coarse, but does a decent job of trapping debris (I used to have several Fluval canisters years ago.)

This is the sponge: http://usa.hagen.com/Aquatic/Media-I.../External/A226

I'm planning on ripping the pads off my used Accent cartridge and using the plastic frame. I think a few zip ties, and some careful trimming, would hold the sponge in place well and not allow any filter bypass if it's done correctly. I do know from my experience with the 406 canisters that even when these sponges get dirty the water flow is not significantly reduced. I used to only clean my canisters once every 6 weeks or so in two different 90 gallon heavily stocked tanks. I THINK this will work perfectly for the Accents filter and the water flow should be ok for 4 weeks in between cleanings. They can also be rinsed an reused SEVERAL times, I only replaced mine in the canisters every 4 months or so.

Again, my tank is still new and cycling so I'm not going to do any experimenting until the tank is stable. But I will report back here once I do with pictures. I love the Accent filter's look (having everything hidden), and I refuse to give up on it without trying a few things first.

I can tell you that turning the pump around with the intake on the same side as the cartridge has made a world of difference, but my tank is new still so the cartridge is not getting very dirty yet. I may even upgrade the Fluval pump with something stronger in the future. There's enough room for a decent Eheim pump with a higher GPH rating. So far, so good.
Hi, I think I was not clear, I have used both the U6 (the long rectangular coarse sponge) and the U4 (poly/carbon cartridge)
- I tried the U6 a couple of weeks ago, in addition to the Accent cartridge. I placed the U6 sponge vertically between the Accent cartridge and the heater, but it didn't make any difference. I was too lazy to take the whole filter out of the tank and check in detail what the best arrangement would be (like placing underneath the heater?)
- The last few days I've been trying the U4, I got it from Fluval support after I explained to them my issues with the Accent cartridge. So far it doesn't get clogged, but maybe that's because a lot of unfiltered water finds its way around the filter since it is slightly smaller (as Consp mentioned in another post)
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:34 PM   #43
 
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Hi, I am using the "POLY/CARBON". As you said, it is really similar to the one made for the Accent.
Ok, I figured as much but was curious. I have high hopes for the canister sponge :). Hopefully my cycle won't take forever. I bought a bottle of Safe Start+, but by the time I got it in the mail, it was VERY cold so I fear the bacteria were all dead. I'm going to travel to big, popular LFS in East Lansing (about 30 miles from here) over the weekend and see if they have any in stock. The tiny store here in town has some, but they removed the expiration date stickers on it...it's probably long expired.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:43 PM   #44
 
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Hi, I think I was not clear, I have used both the U6 (the long rectangular coarse sponge) and the U4 (poly/carbon cartridge)
- I tried the U6 a couple of weeks ago, in addition to the Accent cartridge. I placed the U6 sponge vertically between the Accent cartridge and the heater, but it didn't make any difference. I was too lazy to take the whole filter out of the tank and check in detail what the best arrangement would be (like placing underneath the heater?)
- The last few days I've been trying the U4, I got it from Fluval support after I explained to them my issues with the Accent cartridge. So far it doesn't get clogged, but maybe that's because a lot of unfiltered water finds its way around the filter since it is slightly smaller (as Consp mentioned in another post)
I got that part, but I'm confused on the "U6" sponge you're referring to...the internal filters that the poly/carbon U4 cartridge comes from have four models, U1, U2, U3 and U4. There isn't a U6 (that I'm aware of, I could be wrong), is the sponge from the 406 Canister filter I'm going to try the one you are using? Or is it the U4 sponge that I linked today?

I think using just that sponge from the 406 (not the U4 sponge) zip tied to the plastic frame from the Accent cartridge will work well. You can trim the 406 sponge to fit, but leave enough extra on the sides and bottom to ensure there is no bypass. There will be tiny holes from the zip ties, but the 406 sponge is so much denser it shouldn't make a difference.

Hopefully I'm not being confusing, I have a tendency to not always type out the complete thoughts in my head, lol. Old age I guess.....

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Old 02-21-2014, 12:04 AM   #45
 
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I got that part, but I'm confused on the "U6" sponge you're referring to...the internal filters that the poly/carbon U4 cartridge comes from have four models, U1, U2, U3 and U4. There isn't a U6 (that I'm aware of, I could be wrong), is the sponge from the 406 Canister filter I'm going to try the one you are using? Or is it the U4 sponge that I linked today?

I think using just that sponge from the 406 (not the U4 sponge) zip tied to the plastic frame from the Accent cartridge will work well. You can trim the 406 sponge to fit, but leave enough extra on the sides and bottom to ensure there is no bypass. There will be tiny holes from the zip ties, but the 406 sponge is so much denser it shouldn't make a difference.

Hopefully I'm not being confusing, I have a tendency to not always type out the complete thoughts in my head, lol. Old age I guess.....
No wonder you are confused!. I just checked its name in the box and it's called A226 (foam for 404/405/406). These days I had been reading about the Fluval 06 canister filters (106/206/306/406 models), so apparently the "06" number got stuck in my brain :)
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:41 AM   #46
 
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No wonder you are confused!. I just checked its name in the box and it's called A226 (foam for 404/405/406). These days I had been reading about the Fluval 06 canister filters (106/206/306/406 models), so apparently the "06" number got stuck in my brain :)
LOL, ok then. You are using the sponge I'm going to try....just in a different way. :) I admit I know very little about internal filters (like the U4) because I've ALWAYS used either AquaClears or Fluval and Eheim Canisters. But, now we're on the the same page.
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:45 AM   #47
 
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Old 02-28-2014, 06:12 PM   #48
 
My tank is still not done cycling yet, so I'm not messing with anything for the moment. However, I'm 3 weeks in on the original cartridge and so far, the water level has not dropped in the middle chamber and the tank is crystal clear. I've only done a few small water changes just to make things easier on the 3 fish in it, other than that, nothing to report.
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:57 PM   #49
 
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i had the same problem so i called fluval and they r shipping out a new heater and new media catridges that are supposed to solve the problem i guess they r the same media used in the u-4 filters..
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:00 PM   #50
 
Anyone solve the problem ? I bought this tank too and now having the same problem, noticed the water in my tank went yellow/green then noticed weird sound coming out the filter. The water level in the mid chamber was low. I rinced the cartridge, and switched the pump so the side that draws water is actually on the side of the cartridge.. Any other suggestions ?
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