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If you intend a planted tank, the easiest and faster "cycling" is with the plants and fish. Plant the tank with the plants you want, and once it has a reasonable number, add a few of the fish you want. Small and fairly hardy fish are safest; I say this because while this method does not stress the fish like plant-less cycling does, there are some fish that are sensitive to fluctuating water conditons with respect to pH, hardness and the nitrogen cycle and they should only be added to established tanks. Corys I would not use at first, neons would work. Once planted, add the group of neons and the cycling will take care of itself the first day. Then add the other fish slowly. Provided you have enough plants, not just one or tow but planted, this works fine.

With respect to the "ammonia" you've been adding, yes, I would do a major water change to clear that out, fill the tank, use conditioner, plant it; then add the first few fish.

I have always set up new tanks this way; lots of plants, fish the first day--never ammonia or nitrite above zero.

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Wow I am impressed, thank you for your time helping me with this. I think I have alot of work to do tomorrw. Ill do a 75% water change and see where that brings me. I really wanted to do plants, but felt it might be difficult, Ill be researching all types of beginner plants and lighting. Thank you very much for all of your help.
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Wow I am impressed, thank you for your time helping me with this. I think I have alot of work to do tomorrw. Ill do a 75% water change and see where that brings me. I really wanted to do plants, but felt it might be difficult, Ill be researching all types of beginner plants and lighting. Thank you very much for all of your help.
You're welcome. Have a read of the 4-part series I wrote on a basic approach to a natural planted aquarium, they are stickied at the head of the Aquarium Plant section of this forum. That will give you an overview of simple planted tanks. And the photos of my aquariums are what they look like with this method. And don't hesitate to ask us questions, we're all here to help when we can.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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