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Old 01-21-2014, 02:36 PM   #31
 
Okay then. Will a Betta get along with an otto? The otto is the only one who is still alive.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:09 PM   #32
 
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that depends upon the temperament of the betta.lots of hiding places will help,but no guarantees.very sorry for your loss,and the accompanying frustration.

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Old 01-21-2014, 03:12 PM   #33
 
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that depends upon the temperament of the betta.lots of hiding places will help,but no guarantees.
Not exactly what I wanted to hear.
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Old 01-21-2014, 05:21 PM   #34
 
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Okay then. Will a Betta get along with an otto? The otto is the only one who is still alive.
Mmm, yeah they can get along with otos SOMETIMES, like another said it depends fully on the bettas temperament and it's highly likely they wont get on well. Some bettas can, others cannot get along with anything else....like some get along with snails, others will rip them out of their shells and kill them if they can, or constantly pester them...and sshrimp are pretty much lunch for bettas.

The other problem is, otos need groups of five or more and to be kept in 20+ gallon tanks. Like cories, they're social, and are very sensitive fish. If they don't have proper space, food and a proper sized shoal, they can get stressed out and die.

In a ten gallon, bottom-dwellers need to be kept to shrimp and snails, critters that can handle smaller tanks and don't need large groups. Even pygmy cories don't do well in tanks that small. It wont be able to handle the bioload from a betta and five otos either I don't think...bottom-feeders and carnivores like betta have a pretty high bioload.


Find a new home for the oto and get some Zebra Nerite or Tiger Nerite snails. They're pretty hardy against betta. You MIGHT be able to get a couple African Dwarf Frogs with a betta(no more than two or three, and they must be in groups of at least two)...but again, that can be iffy. I've always had frogs with my bettas with minimal issues unless there's a veiltail betta in the mix(the frogs may bite the tail, but they tend to leave the shorter finned bettas be, same with crowntails but crowntails can be extra aggressive). It's purely on the bettas temperament, and those are always iffy. =P
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Old 01-21-2014, 05:33 PM   #35
 
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Mmm, yeah they can get along with otos SOMETIMES, like another said it depends fully on the bettas temperament and it's highly likely they wont get on well. Some bettas can, others cannot get along with anything else....like some get along with snails, others will rip them out of their shells and kill them if they can, or constantly pester them...and sshrimp are pretty much lunch for bettas.

The other problem is, otos need groups of five or more and to be kept in 20+ gallon tanks. Like cories, they're social, and are very sensitive fish. If they don't have proper space, food and a proper sized shoal, they can get stressed out and die.

In a ten gallon, bottom-dwellers need to be kept to shrimp and snails, critters that can handle smaller tanks and don't need large groups. Even pygmy cories don't do well in tanks that small. It wont be able to handle the bioload from a betta and five otos either I don't think...bottom-feeders and carnivores like betta have a pretty high bioload.


Find a new home for the oto and get some Zebra Nerite or Tiger Nerite snails. They're pretty hardy against betta. You MIGHT be able to get a couple African Dwarf Frogs with a betta(no more than two or three, and they must be in groups of at least two)...but again, that can be iffy. I've always had frogs with my bettas with minimal issues unless there's a veiltail betta in the mix(the frogs may bite the tail, but they tend to leave the shorter finned bettas be, same with crowntails but crowntails can be extra aggressive). It's purely on the bettas temperament, and those are always iffy. =P
I don't even want the otto anymore. Will my LFS take it back?
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:07 PM   #36
 
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They may take it back, it depends on the rules at the shop. If you've had it less time than their return policy you can get a refund. You may even be able to sell him back or sell him to another shop if you can find one that buys.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:10 PM   #37
 
Sorry to hear about your losses Goldfish98. Its discouraging for sure. But you mentioned they started acting like this right after you added new decor. Is it possible you could have introduced some kind of foreign toxin with the new decor or from your hands-soap, lotion etc? I always rinse anything going into my tank before adding it.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:48 PM   #38
 
I rinsed my hands before doing it. I actually had my mom put the rock in as I have shaky hands and I was afraid of whacking the poor things. She forgot to rinse it. I told her to, but she forgot like 10 seconds after.
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:47 PM   #39
 
The betta is a great idea for your 10gal. Some stores keep bettas in community tanks instead of tiny bowls or cups, which imho is cruel. If you can find one thats been housed with other fish at the lfs then he should be fine with your otto. You said your thinking of removing the otto anyway so maybe the store would work out a trade or discount towards the betta. I prefer shrimp or snails as scavengers for betta tanks anyway.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:02 AM   #40
 
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Yeah, it probably is high ammonia or lack of oxygen. I've had a fish die because of ammonia.
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