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Old 08-12-2010, 03:10 PM   #21
 
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:24 PM   #22
 
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So you said your fish had Ich, right? I don't really understand exactly what the circumstances of your fish's death are... Can you give us a sequential list of everything that happened since you first started noticing problems?
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:11 PM   #23
 
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Bradilion is it possible that your other Gourami killed your fish? Have you noted any aggression with him/her? Just wondering because like you, I hadn't noted anything on my small Gold Gourami until it was dead one day. My little Blue was showing signs of stress but in the beginning, I didn't know what was going on. Then I saw Big Bertha attack the little Blue Gourami. I didn't see her do anything to the little Gold but once Big Bertha was no longer in the tank, the mysterious deaths stopped. I don't know if that is happening in your tank or not but thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:12 PM   #24
 
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So you said your fish had Ich, right? I don't really understand exactly what the circumstances of your fish's death are... Can you give us a sequential list of everything that happened since you first started noticing problems?
I don't know that it's ich at all... that's just what different people keep suggesting

here's how everything has gone down

got the tank set it up... foolishly dropped 3 spotted corys in there to cycle it

2 corys died (normal) :/

one lived - cycling took like 2 months but finally I was ready for more fish - only fish I KNEW I wanted for sure was black neon tetras so I got 7 of them (this was about a month ago)

they were great - everything was going fine and 2 weeks later I went ahead and got 2 neon blue dwarf gouramis - the next day I noticed 2 very small (grain of salt sized) white spots on each of the gouramis - I kept an eye on them and a few days later the spots were gone... a week or so later I started noticing similiar spots on ALL of my tetras (this was this past Saturday)

I popped on here to see if anyone had a clue what it might be - and someone had said it sounded like ich (but could be 'something' else) - I was given advice for treating ich... which was to crank the temp up to 90 and basically keep an eye on everybody

everybody was acting fine... eating like normal and behaving how I'm used to them behaving until yesterday I noticed the tetras weren't quite as voracious at feeding time - later last night I found one of the tetras sucked up against the side of the filter intake, dead - I took him out asap

then this morning I woke up to a dead gourami!! no idea what happened there are they have seemed fine and showed no further signs of any white spots beyond the couple I mentioned when I first got them

throughout the day today I have lost 3 more tetras... they appear dead, kinda floating with the current of the filter/bubbles, tipping upside down and onto their sides and then they start waggling their tails like a mermaid so I know they're alive - but eventually they end up losing the battle against the filter intake and they get sucked to the side

one of these tetras was completely missing the triangular parts of his tail!! - they were not eaten by anybody after he dies because I watched him as he slowly made his way over to the filter intake which was when I noticed the missing tail - he is the only one so far with a missing tail

unfortunately at this point I don't have access to medicine

I'm down to 2 (from 7) tetras, 1 (from 2) gourami and the original cory (who even with the cranked temp, still seems to be totally fine *knock on wood*

currently everyone in the tank is acting fine - but the two remaining tetras still have those white spots
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:15 PM   #25
 
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Bradilion is it possible that your other Gourami killed your fish? Have you noted any aggression with him/her? Just wondering because like you, I hadn't noted anything on my small Gold Gourami until it was dead one day. My little Blue was showing signs of stress but in the beginning, I didn't know what was going on. Then I saw Big Bertha attack the little Blue Gourami. I didn't see her do anything to the little Gold but once Big Bertha was no longer in the tank, the mysterious deaths stopped. I don't know if that is happening in your tank or not but thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.
the one gourami did spend most of his time in a corner and the other liked to chase him from the food - but to tell ya the truth I can't tell which one is which so I have no idea which one is dead :/

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say the less aggressive one is dead - however this one may just be out and about more because he's the only one left

but the gourami is DEFINITELY NOT what is killing the tetras!!
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:21 PM   #26
 
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Once Big Bertha was removed the remaining Blue took a little time but made it's way out of the plants too. That poor fish had been hiding in the plants and living in fear the whole time Bertha was in the tank. Now for the most part my fish seem to all get along well. When you have a stress-or in the tank I think all he_ _ can break loose. I think fish do die of stress under those circumstances as well even if the nasty fish hasn't done any picking on it. It is like they know that once the current victim is gone, it is their turn.

Hopefully that is not the issue, or maybe, hopefully it is, then you can just do a little adjusting in your stock and all will be well. Now you only have 1 Gourami, right?

From my EXTREMELY LIMITED experience, they don't always get along with each other.

reading your last post, I can't help but think this might be the issue. All fish doing well until you add 2 Gourami... then white spots, I wonder if they are bite marks?

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Old 08-12-2010, 04:27 PM   #27
 
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Once Big Bertha was removed the remaining Blue took a little time but made it's way out of the plants too. That poor fish had been hiding in the plants and living in fear the whole time Bertha was in the tank. Now for the most part my fish seem to all get along well. When you have a stress-or in the tank I think all he_ _ can break loose. I think fish do die of stress under those circumstances as well even if the nasty fish hasn't done any picking on it. It is like they know that once the current victim is gone, it is their turn.

Hopefully that is not the issue, or maybe, hopefully it is, then you can just do a little adjusting in your stock and all will be well. Now you only have 1 Gourami, right?

From my EXTREMELY LIMITED experience, they don't always get along with each other.

reading your last post, I can't help but think this might be the issue. All fish doing well until you add 2 Gourami... then white spots, I wonder if they are bite marks?
even if it was the gourami killing the tetras they wouldn't be dropping at this crazy rate!!
but I really seriously doubt he is what's killing them... he may have contributed to the stress that made them more susceptible to whatever this spot business is - but I even doubt that - in general he seems pretty chill
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:32 PM   #28
 
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reading your last post, I can't help but think this might be the issue. All fish doing well until you add 2 Gourami... then white spots, I wonder if they are bite marks?
they're not bite marks... the tetras won't let the gourami anywhere near them

it's like a goldfish trying to catch a piranha
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:34 PM   #29
 
IDK what to tell you... I would be treating my fish with every med. under the sun that made sense at this juncture... Are you sure there are no other symptoms besides these marks? No abnormal behavior such as flashing or swimming erratically?
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:40 PM   #30
 
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IDK what to tell you... I would be treating my fish with every med. under the sun that made sense at this juncture... Are you sure there are no other symptoms besides these marks? No abnormal behavior such as flashing or swimming erratically?
seriously not until moments before they end up dead - maybe a half hour... they start like I said floating around looking as if they are dead, drifting vertical and then back onto their sides - like they have no energy left to swim... then they suddenly wiggle so I can see they are not actually dead

and within 30 minutes they're dead - before that they are acting completely normal... hangin' together
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