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post #11 of 23 Old 05-10-2012, 09:14 PM
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That's interesting. 9.3 is crazy high, sounds like overkill from the water company to me.
Is this a case where water should be aged before being put in the aquarium, so the pH can lower?

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That's interesting. 9.3 is crazy high, sounds like overkill from the water company to me.
Is this a case where water should be aged before being put in the aquarium, so the pH can lower?
As far as I know, the pH will not lower much without something to impact it. If I leave my tap water sit out, the pH does not fluctuate. But in the aquarium the biological processes quickly change it. Water changes with pH 7 water in a pH 5 tank, and half the tank, only cause a slight rise for a few hours, maybe .2 or .3, then its back to 5.

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post #13 of 23 Old 05-11-2012, 07:39 AM Thread Starter
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@Olympia:

I like the idea of a centerpiece fis, like a Dwarf Gourami, with a small school of smaller fish,but there's also the appeal of 1 or 2 schools of little fish. What do you like for a 10g.?

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Be careful with Dwarf Gourami, this is a fish many donot recomend acquiring due to health risks. Many stores (reputable anyway) won't even stock it if they don't know its origin. Profile explains this a bit.

Centrepiece fish in small tanks (anything below a 20g is small in this regard) usually do not work. Anything large enough to be a "centrepiece" will likely be too large for the tank, or be inappropriate for the other fish that are suitable. The impact on water alone from such larger fish in a small space is significant, as well as the physical space.

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post #15 of 23 Old 05-11-2012, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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Byron,

Thanks for the heads-up. Thinking about the impact on the waterquality, it sounds like a small school would work out the best that I know of. Tell me if you have any thoughts about it.

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post #16 of 23 Old 05-11-2012, 10:53 AM Thread Starter
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Value To Removing Surface Agitation?

Hi again, Byron. I'm wondering at this particular moment whether it would be good to have no surface agitation, just water movement, in the tank. I have an Aquaclear 30 (150), and I'm sure you know what they do.

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Answering your last two posts, last one first. If there are live plants, I would go with minimal water movement. In a 10g I use a single sponge filter, the Hagen Elite is my favourite because it can be attached to a rear corner at any hight (is adjustable). I use this in my 10g, and a dual Elite in both my 20g and 29g, and the tanks are crystal clear.

To the earlier question on fish, with your soft water I would have plants and some of the "dwarf" species that do so well in 10g tanks but get lost in larger. I think this came up in another thread, but if not just have a look at the Cyprinids section in the profiles, the characins (Ember T, some pencilfish), Badids, Anabantids and Atherinids. There are some dwarf species in all of these.

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post #18 of 23 Old 05-11-2012, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks Byron. Why do you use only one sponge on your 10? I use two. I guess it's because the bacteria compete with the plants for oxygen. I'll have to take the second one out after I get the tank set up with plants.

I was trying to put a pic I took of my tank, but it gave me a prompt for an Internet address and I couldn't get it to work.

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Thanks Byron. Why do you use only one sponge on your 10? I use two. I guess it's because the bacteria compete with the plants for oxygen. I'll have to take the second one out after I get the tank set up with plants.

I was trying to put a pic I took of my tank, but it gave me a prompt for an Internet address and I couldn't get it to work.

Steve
When you click "Manage Attachments," the window that pops up has a "Browse" button at the top, this will take you to your PC files. Find the photo and click "Upload."

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