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Old 01-06-2007, 03:12 PM   #1
 
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I'm new to the fish world and I am starting up.

I'm gonna be in my dorm so I have a 10 g tank. Gravel w/ undergravel filter. It'll be stocked with a Red Tailed Shark, a Black and Gold African Cichlid (electric yellow). Prolly 2-3 Barb's and prolly 1-2 pleco's. Haven't gotten the fish yet b/c I have to do the cycle.

Completely new so not really sure how to do the cycle thing and going about it. I'm going to purchase the fish after the aquarium is ready for them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:08 PM   #2
 
ouch, very bad choice of fish. First of all im not sure if those fish get along with each other, second of all, a 10 gallon tank isnt big enough for them. I would suggest you sticking to begginer small fish like danios or platies.

Have you already got an udergravel filter? If you dont i suggest you not get it. A good begginer filter is a power filter with a bio-wheel. You can get these for around 20 dollars at your local pet store. Even if you already have an undergravel filter, you should still get a power filter.

Ah so youve chosen to do a fishless cycle, GREAT! The best way to do this is to go and get 100% pure ammonia with no added ingredients like fragrances etc and add 3-4 drops of it to your tank daily. Keep doing this until cyclings over :)
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:30 PM   #3
 
the fish each max out @ 4 in I was told. I could be lied to by my lfs not sure what that is yet but the forum uses this abbrv quite a bit. both fish max out @ 4 in and one pleco. i have the undergravel filter already but im going to be using that and the power filter. The 100 % ammon comes in a bottle i'm guessing would that be similar to the chlorine remover bottles that have aloe vera? How long would cycling take? Thank you for the response and time.
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Old 01-06-2007, 08:03 PM   #4
 
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Do not get the red-tailed shark! I had one in a 20 gallon tank and found it was a big pain within a few months -- grows fast and torments other fish. Cichlids generally are not good options for a 10 gallon tank either (the cichlid you mention requires a much larger tank), and even barbs would do better with at least 20 gallons.

What type of pleco? Only one bristlenose or butterfly or other small pleco will do.

I would recommend going with tetras, platies or danios. There may be some smaller barb species that would be okay, but I'm not sure. Guppies would also be good. Keep in mind a general rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:01 PM   #5
 
i was going to go w/ a small pleco that doesn't grow big what so ever. Any suggestion on a small pleco to get? I liked the color of the African Cichlid the black and gold b/c of the color of the fish. Any suggestion on a non community fish which looks great? Not looking for quantity but more quality. Thank you for the advice.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:34 PM   #6
 
Tank too small. A 29g would be the absolute smallest tank for your choice of fish. You may want to reconsider your choice of fish. Sharks and cichlids can be rather pugnacious and bullish. I think that if I were setting up a 10g tank and were new to the game(my god, I'm have a retro moment here), I would start with inexpensive "starter fish", ei danios, lemon and silver-tip tetras, and other "schooling" fishes. For scavengers I would use cories, plecos; something "bullet" proof. I realize that you may have a notion to buy other, more exotic fish, but take advantage of the experience and enjoy the learning curve.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:15 AM   #7
 
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What type of pleco? Only one bristlenose or butterfly or other small pleco will do.
Definitely not the butterfly which is actually a hillstream loach. Hillstreams have been greatly mistaken for plecos and are actually loaches, part of the Cyprinoformes.
Bad option IMO as they are prefer cooler waters whereas your other choices are tropicals. They also prefer currents and in a 10 gallons tank, the other tankmates may not be able to tolerate currents in a small compartment.

If you want this fish, get white clouds for tankmates and avoid the use of heaters.

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I would recommend going with tetras, platies or danios. There may be some smaller barb species that would be okay, but I'm not sure. Guppies would also be good. Keep in mind a general rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water.
Cherry barbs are good options for smaller species.:)

IMO, no plecs would fit in a 10 gallons unless you are prepared for more water changes and strong filtration. Plecs are big waste producers and in a 10 gallons tank, it is very tricky to handle the water parameters.
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:42 AM   #8
 
Yes, no shark and no cichlid. A ten gallon it way to small. I am agreeing with eveyone else here. Go with the smaller fish like danios or some tetras.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:06 AM   #9
 
ok thank you for the responses. I will def. be getting tetras or dainos.
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:41 AM   #10
 
A great danio to start off with is a zebra danio. These are only around 99 cents each and they are extremely hardy
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