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First Fish tank ( 15 Gal)
Old 04-08-2008, 11:04 PM   #1
 
First Fish tank ( 15 Gal)

Im not too sure if i posted this in the correct spot but here it goes.

I bought a fish tank about 2 1/2 weeks ago. Its a 15 gallon hexagon tank. I bought a capable filter, heater, and a oxygen bulbbler thing. I filled it with plain gravel, a rock house, and some fake plants.

After 2 days of letting it chill with water inside i put 2 parrot fish into, which ive grown quite fond of lol. After about a week it started to smell incredibly rank, and the water was slightly cloudy. I read somewhere that it could just be a "bacteria bloom" so i let it hang out for a little bit but then decided to do a full cleaning.

The smell and cloudyness remained gone for the next 4 days but returned just as bad.

Ive let it just sit there, smelling bad for about 5 days and im not too sure whats going on. my Ph is at about 7 which the pet store manager said is perfectly fine for the fish. sleeping in my room is becoming unbearable lol.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:56 AM   #2
 
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What happened was you purchases two fish with pretty big bioloads for a small tank, and it's a pretty clear guess you don't even have the remotest idea of what cycling would be. Basically, it's where fish waste (poo, pee, and leftover fish food) produces ammonia. Now, we know that ammonia is pretty darn toxic, and you cloudy water suggests you have a good deal of it in there. So anyways, eventually ammonia starts to convert into nitrites which are no less toxic, and those convert into nitrates which are less harmful and will take care of ammonia and nitrates in a stable tank (test results should read 0 ammonia and nitrites and less than 20 ppm nitrates, not at all possible for what you have in there). When you did a full cleaning, I'm assuming you took all the water out thus restarting the cycle.

Get rid of the parrot fish immediately (WAY too small of a tank, there is absolutely nothing you can do to make them survive in there). I would restart the tank with fresh water (dechlorinated) and either drop in a few flakes of food every few days to kick-start the cycle or get a couple small danios. They produce less waste and are very hardy. Also purchase an API liquid test kit, everyone needs one.
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:02 AM   #3
 
hm, alright.

pet supplies plus said that a 15 gallon tank would be more then enough room for 2 parrot fish.

also i have a friend with 2 parrot fish in just a ten gallon next door to my house who encounters absolutely no problem lol.

i guess my friends just getting off lucky, but thank you very much for your help. looks like i'll have to find a new home for them and have some work to do on the tank itself.
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Old 04-09-2008, 01:12 PM   #4
 
I would guess your friend hasn't had those parrot fish for very long. You should be able to return the fish to the store where you purchased them from. Please do that ASAP, they are probably fading fast in that tank.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:02 PM   #5
 
well the funny thing is is that the tank that she has is actually 5 1/2 gallons and shes had the 2 parrot fish for 6 months now, but im definitly gonna do some work on my tank / take the fish back right now.
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:40 PM   #6
 
okay, i ended up giving my largest parrot fish to my aunt, who has a rediculously large tank, but knows absolutly nothing about fish tank care and has a company do it..lol

i kept my medium sized one and bought a "ammonia pouch" that a pet store employee informed me about. he tested a sample of my water and said the only problem was that my ammonia was way over.

one last question, since i just found out you should RARELY do a complete water how does one go about cleaning up things like leftover food and fish poop from the bottom of the tank ?

ive heard of snails / plucos or w/e ? but im not too sure if theyd be efficient enough ?
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:07 PM   #7
 
Honestly, don't put in the ammonia pouch. You WANT the ammonia to be in your tank (not at the same time as your fish)...

The idea is to let the ammonia build up, which causes a bacteria bloom (this is good). The bacteria break down the ammonia to nitrite and a different bacteria grows (also good) to break down the nitrite to nitrate...which is less harmful.

Once you have a tank that shows 0 ammonia, 0 nitirite and 10 nitrate, you are ready to start adding more fish...don't add too much at one time, or you may see a new ammonia spike (because the bacteria are not enough to "combat" it).

As far as water changes. only change 1/2 or so per week. What kind of filter do you have? If you have the kind that hangs on the back of the tank, wash the filter sponges once per week, but only in the dirty water you collected in a bucket, NOT in the sink, the tap water will kill your bacteria that are living in it...also, do it quickly, don't let it dry out, they will die....if there is a bio wheel (spinning wheel on top), leave that alone....don't wash it ever, unless it gets so much gunk it cannot spin.

As far as the gravel, you get a siphon and "vaccum" it up...don't remove the gravel, there is more bacteria on it...if it dries out, they die...

If your sponges look like they are getting bad and need to be replaced, buy a new sponge and use both for two weeks so it can establish some bacteria growth before you throw the old ones out...

Good luck
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:32 PM   #8
 
damn buddy lol, that is extremely easy to understand / helpful. If i only knew about this prior to buying fish and all that...i'll defintly keep that in mind the next time i setup a tank.

but what your saying now is...

I should hold up on the ammonia pouch, let my tank continue to stink up/get really cloudy with my fish still inside ?

And yes i have the type that clings onto the wall, some hagen sting ray thing. thanx for the info on the sponges never knew about cleaning it with dirty water.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:47 PM   #9
 
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pet supplies plus said that a 15 gallon tank would be more then enough room for 2 parrot fish.
One thing you realize from this forum is a lot of chain stores like that are happy to hire anyone even if they know nothing...

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also i have a friend with 2 parrot fish in just a ten gallon next door to my house who encounters absolutely no problem lol.

i guess my friends just getting off lucky, but thank you very much for your help. looks like i'll have to find a new home for them and have some work to do on the tank itself.
Yes, very lucky. Go on google and look up your fish and see what it says about it..
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:02 PM   #10
 
Micallef991:

Yes, hold off on the ammonia pouch...but honestly GET THE FISH OUT OF THE TANK until you have a test kit and test 0 ammonia, 0 nitirite and 10 or so nitrate....

With no fish, there is no ammonia, so the cycle can't start, so that is why Flashygrrl suggested getting some small hardy fish...your parrot fish are suffering now. If you use the ammonia pouch, they will not suffer so much, but you have to keep a new pouch ready to go when it starts to wear out..or else you are just prolonging the suffering...

Give both to your aunt with the large tank for now and just "feed" and empty tank with food, this will decay into ammoinia and start the cycle...

What fish does your aunt have? Make sure the parrot fish don't start attacking them, or vise versa...[/list]
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