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Old 10-20-2010, 06:17 PM   #11
 
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Old 10-20-2010, 06:36 PM   #12
 
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That is a good site but do not just go by it because sometimes it can be wrong. If you put lots and lots of real plants in there you will not have to worry about the cycle because the plants will kind of automatically cycle it. If you buy them online they are a good bit cheaper than in the LFS. The two places that most of us order from are sweetaquatics.com and aquariumplants.com they are both resonable in price for the plants and shipping.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:30 PM   #13
 
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6 platies and 5 cories to start. Do these numbers seem good to start out a 55 gallon with?
I'd start with just the platies. Cories like an established tank, so I'd get the platies first. If you are going to get another school of something else, I'd get them next, and then get your cories last.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:36 PM   #14
 
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I went to Planted Aquariums Central for my plants with excellent results. They came highly reccommended, and they have some handy packages as well. For a tank, I'm starting to think platies, zebra danios, some sort of compatible tetra, and the cories. I'd also like to inclue maybe 2-4 angelfish, I know they like soft water, but I read that if you're not breeding them they have a good tolerance of hard water, so I need to look into that a bit more and also make sure that nothnig else I put in is going to be something they munch on in the long run.

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Old 10-20-2010, 11:52 PM   #15
 
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Ok, never mind the angelfish. I read somewhere that they get along with platies, but apparently they don't. Ugg! Conflicting information!
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Old 10-21-2010, 12:34 AM   #16
 
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Zebra danios would be too "zippy" with angels as well, I think.

In addition to pristella tetras, black neon tetras also do ok in harder water.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:48 AM   #17
 
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All right, here's the new plan, let me know what you think...
55 gallon tank (48/14 x 12 3/4 x 21), moderately planted with low light plants, allowing for growth
Glass canopy and light strip or hood, low light
Filter: H.O.T Magnum Canister Filter Heater: Hydor Theo 300 watt
Temp (F): 75-77 pH: 7.6-8.0 dH: ?
Fish (In approx order added to tank)
Platy (Xiphophorus maculatus): 10 (approx 2 males and 8 females)
Black Skirt Tetra (Gymnocorymbus ternetz): 7
Head and Tail Light Tetra (Hemigrammus ocellifer): 7
Pristella Tetra (Pristella maxillaris) OR Bloodfin (Aphyocharax anisitsi): 7
Corydorus Catfish (Corydoras sp): 5
Siamese Algae Eater (Crossocheilus siamensis): 1

Questions: Since it will be a planted tank, is using only the one filter adequate? My thought was to add one group of fish a month, does this seem like a good timetable? Should I plan for a certain amount of "loss" of fish when I'm planning numbers? Will the Siamese Algae Eater get lonely? How well do different types of cory's group together, and is there a certain subspecies of cory that is more tolerant of high pH than the others?

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Old 10-21-2010, 05:00 AM   #18
 
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Also, any recommendations on a cost effective, attractive substrate that is gravel vaccuum, plant, and cory compatible? Should I worry about a Co2 system?
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:50 AM   #19
 
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I personally would not go with the siamese algae eater as they have been known to get aggressive at times. I would suggest a bushy nose pleco they will not out grow your tank and are very peaceful. You do not need CO2 that just complicate things and is not needed with low light plants. As for the substrate if you do not spending the money Eco-Complete is a very good small size gravel that is made for plants. It comes it 20 pound bags and the cheapest I have found it is $15.99 at petco. For 50 gallon I think 3 bags would be enough but I like a thick substrate in my tanks so I would probably go with 4 maybe even 5 bags. It has benifical bacteria in it as well as minerals and stuff that is good for the plants and its black which will really make the colors of your fish and plants look good. If you don't want to spend that much then I would go with a small round smooth black gravel you don't want anything big because of the plants and you don't want sharp edges because of the corys.
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:00 AM   #20
 
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I haven't given up on this dream, though it has been delayed. My current mission is substrate planting a 10 and 15. Once those are well established, I may start thinking about investing in a large tank. I'm thinking this won't be until summer at the earliest. At the moment, I'm contemplating the pros and cons of 50, 55, 60, and 65 gallon size tanks. I sitll like platies, though I enjoy guppies and upside down catfish as well. I plan to substrate plant it, assuming the 10 and 15 gallons don't turn out to be complete disasters... they're going to be my experiments, first the 15, and then converting my 10. I'm still open to thoughts and suggestions. It's all long-term daydreaming at this point.
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