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post #121 of 127 Old 11-15-2010, 07:36 PM
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Thanks very much Byron.

The reading from the tap water according to the water board is 38ppm, although when i tested before, it was anywhere between 40-80ppm on API liquid kit. I'll test it again before the next water change. Yes, i remember the 2 minutes shake as advised by you in this thread before :).

I have come across fluval life-glo with 6700K rating. That is closer to 6500K. would you think that'll be suitable?
That's fine; by "around 6500K" I mean roughly 6000K-7000K, most manufacturers are 6500K, Hagen's Life-Glo is 6700K and Hagen make Fluval brand so that is fine. It's your call, Fluval may be more expensive than hardware store tubes, but either will be good.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #122 of 127 Old 11-16-2010, 04:07 AM Thread Starter
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That's fine; by "around 6500K" I mean roughly 6000K-7000K, most manufacturers are 6500K, Hagen's Life-Glo is 6700K and Hagen make Fluval brand so that is fine. It's your call, Fluval may be more expensive than hardware store tubes, but either will be good.
I would definitely like to spend as little as possible, but the only reason i was looking at hagen is as we were discussing earlier, i dont have a glass pane to stop condensation on the lights. So if i get any other tube, will it be no problem in my circumstances or are they all same?
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I would definitely like to spend as little as possible, but the only reason i was looking at hagen is as we were discussing earlier, i dont have a glass pane to stop condensation on the lights. So if i get any other tube, will it be no problem in my circumstances or are they all same?
The tube makes no difference. The issue I see is water getting on the hot tube and causing it to crack or break. All tubes heat up as they burn, and the tank water is cooler than the tube. There may be tubes out there that are specifically desinged to handle this, I've never noticed them if there are; all fixtures I've seen require a glass pane between the tube and water surface.

With sufficient space between the water surface and the tube it may be unlikely. Normal condensation is somewhat different, if you look at the tubes first thing in the morning you will undoubtedly find they are coated with water drops, as would be the glass cover or any tank hood. Warm water evaporates and condenses on anything and everything. Once the tubes are lit, the heat causes the water on them to evaporate, but this is slow and should cause no harm. It is water splashing onto the heated tube that is the danger.

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The tube makes no difference. The issue I see is water getting on the hot tube and causing it to crack or break. All tubes heat up as they burn, and the tank water is cooler than the tube. There may be tubes out there that are specifically desinged to handle this, I've never noticed them if there are; all fixtures I've seen require a glass pane between the tube and water surface.

With sufficient space between the water surface and the tube it may be unlikely. Normal condensation is somewhat different, if you look at the tubes first thing in the morning you will undoubtedly find they are coated with water drops, as would be the glass cover or any tank hood. Warm water evaporates and condenses on anything and everything. Once the tubes are lit, the heat causes the water on them to evaporate, but this is slow and should cause no harm. It is water splashing onto the heated tube that is the danger.
I'll contact Fluval and see what they advice. Also, the approximate distance between the maximum water level marking and the tube itself is around 1.5". So, not sure if that's a safe distance, but let's see what fluval say.

I have looked at the Hagen Life-glo and it's £17 which i think and as you said is a rip off. I couldn't find any Philips/Ge/Sylvannia or any other tubes for that matter near my work place. I'll check some stores over the weekend to see if i can get one of these brands cheaper.

BTW, Any suggestions on automatic food feeders btw?

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I'll contact Fluval and see what they advice. Also, the approximate distance between the maximum water level marking and the tube itself is around 1.5". So, not sure if that's a safe distance, but let's see what fluval say.

I have looked at the Hagen Life-glo and it's £17 which i think and as you said is a rip off. I couldn't find any Philips/Ge/Sylvannia or any other tubes for that matter near my work place. I'll check some stores over the weekend to see if i can get one of these brands cheaper.

BTW, Any suggestions on automatic food feeders btw?

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It appears you are in the UK, so check with your larger hardware/home improvement type stores; in NA we have Home Depot, Lowes, and similar.

I do not recommend auto feeders. They have been known to malfunction, either not feeding or dumping all of it. If this is due to absence from home, fish can last a week and longer without feeding if they are healthy (and not fry which need more food regularly to grow and develop properly). Or if you can get a trusted person to feed them, preferably another aquarist who will understand things and not be likely to overfeed.

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Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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It appears you are in the UK, so check with your larger hardware/home improvement type stores; in NA we have Home Depot, Lowes, and similar.

I do not recommend auto feeders. They have been known to malfunction, either not feeding or dumping all of it. If this is due to absence from home, fish can last a week and longer without feeding if they are healthy (and not fry which need more food regularly to grow and develop properly). Or if you can get a trusted person to feed them, preferably another aquarist who will understand things and not be likely to overfeed.
Thanks Byron. I'll browse some hardware stores on the weekend. Feeder wise, i might not be getting anyone available unfortunately. If I have no choice, i might have to use one. So, will appreciate any recommendations.
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post #127 of 127 Old 11-20-2010, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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Guys i have a quick question about my apistogramma viejita.

I have today seen a black clearly visible blotch on the viejita. It surely wasnt there before and only noticed it today. The only difference today is i have added a female apisto for the male. Is it some sickness or is it part of the show to the female (as it has never left the female till now and been following her showing off all afternoon)? Appreciate any help. The pictures are below:
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This is the video of the apisto and clearly there is no distinct black spot on it

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