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Old 06-12-2012, 09:51 AM   #21
 
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Thanks for the input guys.
For the cleaning niche would Khuli Loaches fill the same role as Corys?

Byron - If i can pick your brain (or anyone else's who can help) a little bit more, the plants I have or will have very soon when they arrive are 1 Amazon Sword (medium in size) 1 small Java fern, 2 hanfulls of Java Moss, 1 plant of Water Sprite and 1 bunch of a strap-like plant (struggling to identify it, long flat leaves like a sag or Lomandra on land I would say, its doing very well. Been in 2 weeks and has sent out runners with 6 new plants pushing up throught the sand!). Is this enough plants to ease the burden to add entire groups, or *gulp* the whole lot at once when its all settled in? Will try and get a photo but struggling to get any decent pic without it being all flash or just rubbish.

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You should not rely on any fish to do cleaning. However, having said that, some fish will eat any food that may land on the substrate, though different fish have different preferences, so this is hit and miss--and substrate fish must be given specific foods to be healthy, they cannot be left to exist on finding scraps. A better choice of a cleaner would be the small snails, particularly Malaysian Livebearing Snails. These are ideal in planted tanks, they burrow throughout the substrate and eat everything they find in the way of food, fish waste, and other organic matter. When it comes to fish, only get fish you really like and want in the tank, rather than a fish that may help with cleaning.

If the plants mentioned are in the tank, adding a species group, say 12 neon tetra, will not be a problem. I would add the fish one species at a time. Plus, once the first fish are in the tank, any new additions should be quarantined in a small tank to avoid introducing disease.

Tip on taking photos, never use the flash. When you have fish, a flash will alarm them. But flash always distorts the colours and such. The tank light alone is best.

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Old 06-12-2012, 05:59 PM   #22
 
Thanks Byron,

I was actually going to ask else where about quarantine tanks but since its come up here i might as well dive in. I have an unused 90L tank with an intank filter. It is not cyled or anything like that. So my question is is it necessary to have the quarantine tank set up and cycled awaiting new arrivals or is there a method of getting them ready as you need them (Mrs has mad it clear 2 tanks are not going to happen lol)?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:29 PM   #23
 
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You can place extra media in you main tanks filter and let it get seeded (takes ~4 weeks) and then it will be ready for use in the QT to seed that (usually okay if fish stock in QT is very low). If no meds are using in the QT period, you can put that media right back into the main tank. If you use meds though, you'll need to discard it or clean it very well to kill any pathogens.

Another option involves the use of a lot of fast growing plants.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:32 PM   #24
 
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Thanks Byron,

I was actually going to ask else where about quarantine tanks but since its come up here i might as well dive in. I have an unused 90L tank with an intank filter. It is not cyled or anything like that. So my question is is it necessary to have the quarantine tank set up and cycled awaiting new arrivals or is there a method of getting them ready as you need them (Mrs has mad it clear 2 tanks are not going to happen lol)?
For 20 years I never quarantined new fish, and aside from ich now and then I had no issues. But twice in the past couple of years I've had various protozoan come in and the last incident killed off 30 fish within a matter of a few days. There seem to be more protozoan issues these days, so I am now using QT.

I use a 20g tall (the basic 20g) for my QT. I keep it running permanently, because I have a fishroom and the space and for me it is easier. You will need a heater, and you have a filter.

Some keep a sponge filter in the main tank so it is colonized with some bacteria, but this may or may not be practical for you. You can "seed" the QT with bacteria in one of several ways, or use a bacterial supplement like Tetra's SafeStart or Seachem's Equilibrium or Dr. Tim's One and Only. Some use a bare QT, I won't because it stresses the fish more. They need some sort of cover, whether plastic plants, wood, rock (whether artificial or real). Some stay bare-bottom, I don't because I know fish are more hyper over this. The fish are already stressed out, I don't like adding more.

Use water from the main tank to fill the QT. Moving over some decor or substrate will transfer bacteria, but remember that if the QT does have to be medicated, this stuff may be lost (not useable again).
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:21 PM   #25
 
Thanks for all you input guys. Finally managed to get an ok photo of what its looking like. The Lemon Tetras went in yesterday and seem to be settling in ok. Still want to find a nice rock and some hair grass to go on the right hand side.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:15 PM   #26
 
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That's coming along very well. If I may, one suggestion; I would try turning the wood just a tad counter-clockwise (looking from above) so the left end is a bit closer to the front, about half way from where it is now. I think this will expand the visual space and lessen the left/right line.
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:15 PM   #27
 
Thanks mate. Will give it a go. My artistic/creative side is not well developed
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